Shattered Kingdoms

So then why do you bother egging him on?

The more rope I can give him to hang himself, the more shovels I can give him to dig himself deeper into his own burial site, the better for all concerned. Just look at his hateful speech. He hopes people actually die because someone opposed him. Do you really want someone who will wish for your family members to die when you oppose him to actually have a place here? Do you want someone with such a murderous heart as that to actually be welcome here or in game? Or would you rather have a place where healthy people are represented, instead of brain-diseased people like alcy?

You don't even have to like me, as Jerinx doesn't, to realize alcy is a disease to the forum and the game and has no place in civilized society.

Is there something in the water? FFS.

Nice. Trick question.

Anyway, while Ayamao and Zhenshi are both shades of grey, Zhenshi is very clearly more lightie than Ayamao. Of that, there can be no intellectual denial.

This is a stern warning to keep all flaming to GD. Alcoholrainbowpig got a two-week ban, but a couple of other people are also close to getting one.

Oh, the drama..

No intellectual denial? Can you stop trolling now? No, it's not "very clearly" when you have the damn city of ELVES in one of the kingdoms and only a shadowy griffon "presence" in the other one to offset that. The Fists? Yeah they are closely associated with Zhenshi but the Guardians are the damn government of Ayamao! Zhenshi gets a light-grey tribunal, a lightie cabal, a pretty much hidden griffon cave and the Bastion, which is so out of the way it barely counts. Ayamao gets the Guardians, a huge elven city which is strictly lightie in a completely Tolkien-like way, the Druids who are a grey cabal, and a few lightie-leaning grey villages. Lightie elements are not as explicit in Zhenshi as they are in Ayamao, argue all you want about that, it's not going to change.

Having had the privilege of seeing what people actually roll in Zhenshi for the past few months I can easily say that the vast majority have been grey, with a few darkies and a few more lighties which were mostly intending to join the Fists anyway. I don't remember any darkies in Ayamao.

I don't really see the point of continuing this after Dulrik came out and said that essentially both are grey and it is left on player discretion to make them more lightie-leaning or grey-leaning.

If by shadowy griffon presence you mean the entirety of bounty NPCs, a number of higher-ranking law NPCs... hell, the Talon is named after one of the most famous old-school lightie NPCs.

The reason why you see less darkies in Ayamao has to do more with proximity to a traditional "darkie" area than anything else.

I think the shadowy griffon presence he's talking about is the...you know, entire tribe/colony of griffons that lives northwest of the capitol. Either that, or he's implying that the lone, abandoned griffon nest just southwest of the capitol is the only griffon presence in Zhenshi. Also, he seems to be forgetting that the bounty NPCs are griffons, yeah, and also the high-ranking NPCs that are griffons.

Zhenshi`s got a huge association to griffons across the board, not simply a "shadowy presence."