Shattered Kingdoms

I deleted not shortly but after that because the <bleeps> from your trio were hunting me whenever they saw me. If killing someone because they won't shut up when he believes his friend is being bullied, then there are no alignments in this game. Maelgrim was as much of a lightie as Alaric. Don't ever think that you <bleep> has any knowledge of actual lightie rp.

bleep?

self editing of curse words.

For the humor impaired: sarcasm incoming!

Sweet! So I scored a PK into the ground on Genjis.

I think I have the solution. The IMMstaff should switch Reinald's alignment to the one that best fits his RP. Both lightie alignments are out, absolutely, as is dogmatic, which could be considered lightie if played right. A decade ago, Loqui explained to me OOCly why his char could be anarchist while being a leader of an aberrant cabunal. It's a tough fit to do that, in my opinion. If the IMMstaff selects a grey aura, unscrupulous would be the most obvious choice. Although I suggest Reinald's RP is actually textbook miscreant; therefore, I suggest Reinald's alignment be imm-switched to miscreant. And that would solve everything.

As far as lightie-on-lightie killing goes, I play nearly all lighties (scrupulous) and greybies. And most of my chars have no normal access to DA or KA. My lightie char in the inn during the verbal beat-down of the completely out of alignment Reinald, had it been a GM, would likely have decided to take matters into its own hands and killed the miscreant bastich, not knowing that that miscreant was actually a light-auraed miscreant.

Feel free to point out what my character's personal goals are that he uses "any means" necessary to further them. Also, point out what means those are. Maybe the unfortunate ones that he hurt because they were in his path too. Hmm, maybe an example or two of Reinald justifying something he did by saying "he was an obstacle in my path to glory, I don't care!1!1". Oh wait, I'd like an example of Reinald hoarding wealth and not busting his [REDACTED] to fill tribunal coffers too. Maybe some names of weak-willed henchmen he had, man how awesome would it be if I had a few lackeys on Reinald like the keepers have. One or two examples of how he breaks little laws left and right, you know, especially in other jurisdictions?

But wait!!! HE PAROLLED A SINGLE DARKIE SPRITE!!!1!1!eleven HE MUST BE A MISCREANT!!!11

It's amazing what kind of crap people will say when you are not around to defend your character. Damn broken keyboard.

I think it's time you take that chip off your shoulder. Pushing40 was somewhat level-headed in his post. But if you want to dispute it...

Let's set Reinald's goal as "running Zhenshi" and play some mad libs.

"Not really caring who gets hurt in the process" = doesn't care what light-aura gets ganked, railed, shafted, oppressed, treated unfairly by the people he's protecting.
"Any means" = deceit/lying by omission, attempting to banish people from Zhenshi for not resurrecting him, paroling certain darkies for no reason other than they sent him tells enough (there are 2 instances, not just one, don't forget...and 2's enough)
"they do end up hurting the unfortunate few who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. They justify this as being the other person's fault for getting in their way in the first place." = Every diplomatic relationship, and the victims thereof, that crumbled because Reinald was unapproachable, unreasonable, and only held a conversation readily when he was treated as the person in charge/#1 head honcho.
"seek large amounts of power" = running Zhenshi, doesn't have to be wealthy if the power's enough.
"usually break those annoying little laws left and right." = paroling a diabolical in spite of him having broken the law.

Textbook, if you asked me. But who's keeping track, right?

Let it go. You had your chances already. Nothing that happened was OOC toward you, just come to terms with the consequences and leave it be.

But, realistically, this thread is about scrupulous and it's limitations/borders. This isn't about Reinald.

Chip off my shoulder? Good thing you took "sunshine" out of that post before I had a chance to quote it. Would have shown who has a bigger chip on his shoulder over this and in general.

Let's see how many things you get wrong just for laughs.



Meaning the two lighties that died to a certain darkie in self-defence? Nice use of plural there champ. But let's see what really happened. Two lightie zealots attack darkie in foreign territory, not for any greater justice or purging evil but for payback. Yeah I can quote Benedict saying they attacked for payback. During the investigation, Mephistir was being reasonable and supporting his claims with evidence which I verified by looking at the outlaw list to see who attacked first. Benedict on the other hand was being intentionally insulting without being provoked, made clear that he would break laws whenever he wanted after making up a ton of accusations against my character. Result? Based on limited IC knowledge, I knew Mephistir had cleared up his case with the other leader. Getting attacked for being a darkie doesn't excuse being attacked. Gets parolled, which is pretty standard practice all around.

But yeah, using a single case to say that blah blah Reinald doesn't care about white auras in general is perfectly reasonable. He must be the demon overlord just because of that. It's also very impressive that with 3 or 4 magma casts Mephistir managed to gank, rail, shaft, oppress and treat unfairly two attacking Hammers. Magma is clearly OP.



What lying by omission and what deceit are you talking about? Want to level any accusations that you can actually substantiate? Good, otherwise don't waste my time with your soapbox drivel. My character had been on a 20 day hiatus, during which he missed out on a few developments. Not knowing about certain events that happened when he wasn't there that no one told him about before all that transpired doesn't make him a liar. Yes he told Gwynnestri to leave Nerina after she was there simply to relay information back to the keepers which resulted in a rule-breaking PK and other extremely bad RP. It's interesting though because it was Sargas who took the "leave nerina if you think that I am corrupted" tell as a banishment. A banishment would be "Leave Nerina and never come back under any circumstance." But it's nice seeing how opinions are formed and maintained around these parts. God bless YIM.

Also please tell me who else did Reinald parole except Mephistir. I can post logs of Reinald being pissed with Aurenna parolling darkies including Mephistir without discussing it, so go ahead and drop names. We'll have fun.



I'd like to ask if you have all that information IC (which I really doubt) or just from your yim buddies. You see, in both cases, the version you have is a little skewed. It's nice parroting what people tell you but instead of explaining what went down exactly, maybe you would like to give any actual examples of Reinald being unapproachable? My "unapproachable" character sat there for an hour RPing with your patronising paladin who called even older characters than him lad and boy, showed understanding to his views and only took offence when said paladin started to accuse him of utter garbage. Should I quote him on calling Reinald the gateway of evil to the west? How he is the reason the lightie kingdoms are fractioned? Or how he gave him a ultimatum to do as the paladin wanted, ignoring any diplomatic RP he may have had in progress that may not have been to his liking? Yes, when you talk with a leader you have to maintain a modicum of respect and good manners. But I'll admit I play a character than gets pissed when they fling unsubstantiated accusations at him all the time. Clearly an alignment violation there, scrupulous characters can never be insulted by douchebag characters. They are all about zen and peace.

No really try to dispute that champ. We'll see who exactly dropped alliances for being pissed with someone and who separated personal feelings from diplomacy.



Nice logic there. He is running Zhenshi therefore he is power mad. Unless he is power mad for refusing to step down because Tolene and co asked for it. Go ahead and breach that subject, it will be really interesting.



LOL. Okaaaay. Breaking laws left and right = breaking laws everywhere, consistently, if they interfere with his personal goals. Parolling one darkie for being attacked is not a. everywhere b. consistently c. interfering with his personal goals. Does that help any?

So, not textbook and I didn't ask you. But go ahead and try again, post logs, evidence, whatever you want. I have time and a new keyboard.

Popcorn anyone?

And no one has to worry about you leading the Talons anymore, buttercup.

So... no thanks.