Shattered Kingdoms

I think most of this QQ, across all the various threads, forums, and sources stems from this idea certain people hold that lighties must be left-leaning, all inclusive, tree-hugging hippies and ever and forever be welcoming to everyone, regardless of whatever. They don't seem to understand that SK's lighties also include angry, gun-totting, meat-eating lighties that would be considered "hard right" and perfectly willing to give evil d00d's both barrels right in the chest and count it a job well done, especially if those evil d00ds are known to be dangerous to the tree huggin' left-leaning lighties who can't be assed to defend themselves or the countries that defend their ability to BE left-leaning tree huggers.

Those people are outright evil. Murder, is murder, is murder. What I hate is that it isn't murder if the 'cause' is right. Seriously, that's your argument? That is the same thing that those of the Dark use. Maelgrim is no different than any other assassin from anywhere.

I understood the irony, I just wanted to point out that I really have no grudge towards the player of Reinald. He's probably a pretty cool dude. :\

Pretty sure no one has an actual grudge against the player, it was just a poorly executed character.

Is that why you tried to convince Genjis that he was not speaking the truth about ardith trio?

Kaim thought Genjis was pretty misguided, yes. He wasn't terribly fond of Tolene himself, however, and he considered her and her actions to be way, way too brash. There was a time Tolene junked some equipment Kaim had returned behind his back, for instance.

Also, I don't know what you mean by "Ardith trio," so you'll have to actually name people.

I don't even know what to say to this. SK lighties don't have to hold to your modern day pacifism ethics. I'm not sure how to make you understand that not every single lightie has the same ethical stances all across the board, and that in the game, murder is acceptable for the right reasons, especially in a fantasy land where death isn't permanent. If everyone played by your rules, what, would lighties be mode stunning everyone during fights? I think you should stop projecting your viewpoints on others who are playing the game.

Seems to me that it stems from the fact that there are actually two alignment systems at work, and they kind of don't really want to work with each other.
On the one hand, you have the traditional DnD-esque good/neutral/evil, with the auras and the gods. On the other, you have the palladium alignment system which was basically designed specifically to not be so rigid and unrealistic as a more traditional system. A diabolical crusader who kills anyone who won't fall in line works from a palladium perspective, but it seems like something a lighty god would frown upon.

Compound all that with people bringing modern concepts of morality into a world which has visible and active deities, and everything gets more confused. When the world has good and evil gods, which are easily recognizable as such, things get a little more black and white. Even for characters that don't follow any specific god, they would still tend to follow the collective sphereres of their similarly aligned gods. What really needs to happen is that people need to remove the modern political and judeo-Christian ideas of morality which really don't apply.

I so much agree with this.

Pretty much. This is very difficult to understand for some people, which perplexes me.