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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:03 pm 
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Marilynzelha wrote:
It's heartbreaking to me that you can't see how that reaction is IC and roll with it. Most of us have also figured out OOCly which sorc you play that's doing it and we've kept that out of the roleplay. It's interesting and all but unless we're playing idiots, we'll assume the common answer is the right one. It wouldn't have to make the roleplay totally disappointing to you, but it does, and that makes me sad.


I have seen how the reaction is IC. I have rolled it with. My character has icly tried to convince the people, feigned ignorance, tried to make it seem realistic. The RP of it basically consists of the character repeating like a broken record something to the extent of "Reveal yourself" etc or such. The problem is that it's literally almost 80% of the characters that automatically know it's a polymorphed character that walks in.

Why is it you don't see people screaming at imms to show themselves when an NPC character mystically starts speaking and emoting? OOCly we all know it's an imm, but do you ever see a character screaming "The Innkeeper doesn't speak! She's too busy! Reveal yourself immortal!" No, you don't. Because it instantly kills any RP that that immortal had initiated. Why do this to other players? There are a plethora of other options. Dispel? Outwit / outtalk the person instead of acting like a broken record and you know, catch them in a lie? Meh, i'm tired and done. GOin to bed.


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Is this possibly about you not being the center of attention? I know this last time you walked into the inn when my character was in the middle of a personal crisis. She just didn't care so much about the pretend she demon.


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Marilynzelha wrote:
She just didn't care so much about the pretend she demon.


And that is okay.

I think some people think it isn't, or something.

The players of SK really aren't pro-dressup, in my experience.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:28 pm 
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Marilynzelha wrote:
It's heartbreaking to me that you can't see how that reaction is IC and roll with it. Most of us have also figured out OOCly which sorc you play that's doing it and we've kept that out of the roleplay. It's interesting and all but unless we're playing idiots, we'll assume the common answer is the right one. It wouldn't have to make the roleplay totally disappointing to you, but it does, and that makes me sad.


I have seen how the reaction is IC. I have rolled it with. My character has icly tried to convince the people, feigned ignorance, tried to make it seem realistic. The RP of it basically consists of the character repeating like a broken record something to the extent of "Reveal yourself" etc or such. The problem is that it's literally almost 80% of the characters that automatically know it's a polymorphed character that walks in.

Why is it you don't see people screaming at imms to show themselves when an NPC character mystically starts speaking and emoting? OOCly we all know it's an imm, but do you ever see a character screaming "The Innkeeper doesn't speak! She's too busy! Reveal yourself immortal!" No, you don't. Because it instantly kills any RP that that immortal had initiated. Why do this to other players? There are a plethora of other options. Dispel? Outwit / outtalk the person instead of acting like a broken record and you know, catch them in a lie? Meh, i'm tired and done. GOin to bed.


Maybe because they don't use the polymorph spell when they are speaking throug npc's. You run around with store bought pets and enchanted armor/weapons that makes it obvious you're a sorceror.

In conclusion, HTFU and keep it ic and RP instead of crying about everything on the forums that dont go perfectly your way 24/7. If you seek for everyone to rp with just your character when it comes into the inn and go along with your character concept when they obviously know it's you, and seeking to be the center of attention...you're going to get disappointed.

PS- You ruined your concept when you posted the log of your RP on the log site. That probably destroyed everyones interest in it by revealing it in an OOC fashion like that.


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Honestly.

Who doesn't keep the containers of notable sorcs in their memory and use locate object to see what they look like?

There are perhaps five ways something that doesn't look like a PC can be talking to you. All but two of them are regarded in-character as contrived. All of them come with no guarantee that they'll be rewarding, figuratively or literally, nor any promises that they will be enjoyable.

That being said, it isn't a big puzzle to see why people don't bite. It isn't OOC shenanigans, it is a character knowing they don't want to bother talking to the creepy stranger who just walked into the public building.


I swear. Have you not ridden a bus or train? It is the same situation. Do you talk to sketchy people you pass on the street? No, because they're probably wanting to shank you and take your gold and magic items. Street smarts is part of playing a character that's made it through some kind of academy and runs around killing things to get more powerful.

If you really wanted to make a character that masqueraded as other creatures, perhaps you should consider aspiring towards certain organizations in the game that cater to that kind of interest. I'll warn you, though, that it's pretty lame once you try it out.


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I think you need to realize that 99% of the player base has heard of polymorph, what it can do, and (unless there's an event) know that seeing an IMM is a very rare and blessed (usually) occurrence. They're not going to just assume that they're seeing some rare creature from lands unknown who happens to be bored enough to come sit in an inn. They're going to assume it's a sorcerer that polymorphed and there's a good chance that sorcerer will be associated with a specific cabal depending on their RP. When an NPC is animated and acting like you would expect that innkeeper, barmaid, whatever, to act then people interact with them as the person that they are in IC terms. They don't call out an IMM because (as far as I know) possession isn't something that occurs ICly. I'm not sure I've ever heard of anybody making that claim and who would believe that an Immortal of untold power would want to possess the local bum anyways? An Immortal can manifest as whatever they want without having to meddle in mortal minds.

As far as IMMs always being believed instantly, not true. There has been doubt in the past that claims of an Immortal appearing as a young woman were actually just the imagination of a drunkard or old fool. Unless the Immortal does something to make their presence as an Immortal obvious (an aura, fancy parlor tricks, whatever) then not only may the person they're interacting with be doubtful, but it's possible that upon telling the tale the person visited by the deity may be called a fool or liar. It isn't as cut and dry as you make it sound.

In short, I don't even play anymore and just from years of experience could have told you that your plan wasn't going to yield the expected results. If you want to fool people with a poly you need to use a playable race because nobody is just going to immediately assume a goblin (or whatever you're using) got bored and wandered into town for a chat.


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The RP of it basically consists of the character repeating like a broken record something to the extent of "Reveal yourself" etc or such.


That is sad, I agree. But yeah, if you pick a demon/seraph in a starting city or some such, I would assume that it was for the sole purpose of hiding your identity. However, there are cases where this "broken record" approach is completely validated: for example, when I played Desdomos I took a hard-ass approach to the law, being hidden, invis, disguised, polymorphed, using a charm, casting a gate within Sith'a'niel could be, in extreme cases, be punishable by death - I think the post is still up somewhere.

A run-of-the-mill half-elf scout chilling in an inn chanting that mantra, however, I would blatantly ignore, or tell him it was none of his business. If your goal is not to hide your identity/appearance, then I would never choose a spectacular race, and if the responses you have been running into annoy you like it seems, I would urge you to do the same.

Best of luck.


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This thread almost makes me want to play again, just so I can roll a giant MR barb who attacks everything that seems "out of place."


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:56 am 
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Is it honestly too much to freaking as people to swallow their pride and actually PLAY THEIR CHARACTER AND NOT THEMSELVES for 5 MINUTES?!


If this is going to be your argument: yes.

Why can't you swallow your own hubris? Everyone else on this game is able to deal with the expectation that rare races don't run around main cities without magical influence.

HTFU. It's not because people can't draw the line between IC and OOC. You aren't the first to think you're being clever with polymorph, and IC expectations are set.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:22 am 
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Some of the best RP I've seen has come from people who polymorph into playable races. And I've been confused by them in the past. Ealuriel got me once with her sprite polymorph. If your goal is to confuse people, that's probably the best way to go. Otherwise, you're probably not going to see anyone as a potted plant, or dragon, etc.. not even IMMs, who tend to take the form of NPCs like Wyenlae, godly spirit type things, or themselves nowadays.


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