Backstab+circle stab.

Raina · **Posted:** Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:03 am

He said "Go around constantly using haste and giant strength" And they can't, its called fatigue.

This is just another 'Lets change everything that I feel is overpowered' Thread. Lets all just be human warriors and use wooden shields and swords. Then someone will still fight about whos sword is bigger.

Chem · **Joined:** Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:04 pm **Posts:** 1017

I personally hate any skill/spell that as the ability to one shot your opponent. Their is no skill involved and just attracts a bunch of trigger happy noobs to the class.

Personally, any skill that has the ability to one shot your opponent should come with an equally deadly risk for attempting it, especially if it's a skill, spells have their own ways of being nullified and usually people will see that one coming.

Backstab should have a chance for the aggressor to fall victim to missing and falling flat on their face, with a lengthy recovery time for a miss.

Baldric · **Posted:** Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:02 am

TheCannibal wrote:

apparently you didn't read my post if you thought I had forgotten that rogues get scrolls

No, you said that most rogues can't go ethereal, which is just plain wrong. You suggested that people could hoard etherealform scrolls, which is also just plain wrong. You can buy a scroll and have a friendly sorc scribe onto it, and it's not possible to hoard every single scroll in the game. Any rogue worth anything makes it a priority to have several such scrolls on their person at all times.

@zellidon: I doubt heal vials can keep up with circle stabs, and it doesn't really matter, since everyone is dropped by backstab anyways. Also, stone skin doesn't block dirt kick. Having a pet with reach is an interesting option I had not considered, though (but once again - backstab is enough to kill anybody).

Zellidon · **Joined:** Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:59 pm **Posts:** 149

Hm, well I've had stone skin deflect my dirt kicks on several occasions, maybe it's not 100%. Maybe it has to due with the strength of the spell. Can't really say I know for sure.

Trexor · **Posted:** Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:53 pm

Zellidon wrote:

Hm, well I've had stone skin deflect my dirt kicks on several occasions, maybe it's not 100%. Maybe it has to due with the strength of the spell. Can't really say I know for sure.

Stone skin will deflect dirt kick. Dirt kick can also kill. It is very rare but it does happen.

The deflect is somethings like " X's dirt harmlessly hits your eyes" or something to that extent.

Zellidon · **Joined:** Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:59 pm **Posts:** 149

Quote:

Bria's kicked dirt breaks your mirror image.
Your stony skin deflects Bria's attack. ------------------------shouldn’t it be one or the other?
Your skin feels soft again.

Baldric.. this is from one of your logs

Imperialistic_Babble · **Joined:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:38 pm **Posts:** 381

stratford wrote:

Finger of death can hit over 1200 HP's in a single shot.

Finger of Death also has a lag involved via casting. Backstab is instant.

Turon · **Joined:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm **Posts:** 861

Zellidon wrote:

Quote:

Bria's kicked dirt breaks your mirror image.
Your stony skin deflects Bria's attack. ------------------------shouldn’t it be one or the other?
Your skin feels soft again.

Baldric.. this is from one of your logs

Dirt kick has a damage portion (deflected by stone skin) and a blind portion (Not deflected by stone skin).

Stone skin does not stop dirt kick's blindness.

Zellidon · **Joined:** Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:59 pm **Posts:** 149

Well, if backstab is weakened, make disguise viable as far as avoiding the law is concerned. A full revamp of disguise I'd even trade the second backstab for.

But I'd also like proof of dirt kicking blinding someone while it's deflected from stone skin. Given proof shows that dirt kicking can eliminate stone skin, and your theory, though chances are slim, perhaps you draw that conclusion because one person kicked dirt at one target which depleted stone skin, then another kicked dirt right after that moment that blinded the same target.

Turon · **Joined:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:33 pm **Posts:** 861

http://sk.[REDACTED].com/show_log.php?fe ... ml_parse=0

I Win wrote:

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
You hear foot steps nearby.
You slowly float to the ground.
You stop flying.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
> A milky-white male centaur is blinded by the dirt in his eyes!
A Peacekeeper sentinel dodges your attack.
You are no longer invisible.
Your life drain barely touches a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest.
Your life drain barely touches a Peacekeeper sentinel's head.
Your life drain strikes a Peacekeeper sentinel's head.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 97%]
>
A Peacekeeper sentinel utters the words, 'yrawzgculatz'.
A Peacekeeper sentinel smiles as a legionnaire captain staggers under the impact of his column of fire!

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 97%]
>
The Innkeeper dodges a fire elemental's attack.
A fire elemental's flaming bite burns the Innkeeper's chest.
A fire elemental's flaming bite burns the Innkeeper's right leg.
Your life drain starts to lacerate a Peacekeeper sentinel's head.
Your life drain skims a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest.
Your life drain starts to lacerate a Peacekeeper sentinel's head.
Your life drain strikes a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest.
A fire elemental quickly jumps out of the way as a legionnaire captain kicks dirt into the air.
A legionnaire captain misses a fire elemental.
A fire elemental is unaffected by a legionnaire captain's crush!
A fire elemental dodges a legionnaire captain's attack.
A fire elemental is unaffected by a legionnaire captain's crush!
Savra misses a fire elemental.
A fire elemental is unaffected by Savra's punch!
A fire elemental dodges the Innkeeper's attack.
The Innkeeper punches at a fire elemental's stomach, barely wounding it.
The concierge throws a steel dagger at a milky-white male centaur!
A milky-white male centaur's stony skin deflects the concierge's attack.
The concierge misses a fire elemental.
A Peacekeeper sentinel starts to concentrate.
A Peacekeeper sentinel slashes at a legionnaire captain's left leg, causing a sore wound.
A fire elemental dodges an astral watcher's attack.
Overall, a Peacekeeper sentinel has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 96%]
>
Savra continues his rhythmic movements.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 96%]
>
A milky-white male centaur starts to concentrate.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 96%]
> Someone is in your way.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 96%]
>
A Peacekeeper sentinel utters the words, 'gszabra ay yauhp'.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 96%]
>
The concierge dodges a fire elemental's attack.
A fire elemental's flaming bite burns the concierge's right leg.
A fire elemental's flaming bite burns the concierge's right arm.
You violently contort a Peacekeeper sentinel's head with your unholy energies.
A Peacekeeper sentinel parries your attack.
Your life drain strikes a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest.
Your life drain causes a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest to warp weirdly.
A fire elemental is unaffected by a legionnaire captain's crush!
A legionnaire captain misses a fire elemental.
A fire elemental is unaffected by a legionnaire captain's crush!
Savra sings a chord that makes a fire elemental's heart rattle in its chest.
A fire elemental is unaffected by Savra's punch!
A fire elemental dodges Savra's attack.
A fire elemental dodges the Innkeeper's attack.
The Innkeeper misses a fire elemental.
The concierge misses a fire elemental.
A Peacekeeper sentinel starts to concentrate.
A Peacekeeper sentinel misses a legionnaire captain.
An astral watcher starts to concentrate.
Overall, a Peacekeeper sentinel has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 95%]
>
A milky-white male centaur utters the words, 'pzaruio grulg'.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 95%]
>
A milky-white male centaur starts to concentrate.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 95%]
>
A Peacekeeper sentinel utters the words, 'gszabra ay yauhp'.
A bright spear of light appears in a Peacekeeper sentinel's hand!
A Peacekeeper sentinel's faithful spear sails wide, but a legionnaire captain still cringes in pain.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 95%]
>
The Innkeeper regains his footing.
Savra continues his rhythmic movements.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 95%]
>
A milky-white male centaur utters the words, 'pzaruio grulg'.

[HP: 92%] [ME:100%] [PE: 95%]
>
A milky-white male centaur starts to concentrate.
An astral watcher utters the words, 'yrl'.
A fire elemental's flaming bite lightly burns the concierge's left leg.
A fire elemental's flaming bite barely burns the concierge's chest.
The concierge dodges a fire elemental's attack.
Your life drain strikes a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest.
Your life drain causes a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest to warp weirdly.
Your life drain starts to warp a Peacekeeper sentinel's chest.
A legionnaire captain stops using an iron hammer.
A legionnaire captain punches at a fire elemental's stomach, barely wounding it.
Savra sings a chord that makes a fire elemental's heart rattle in its chest.
A fire elemental is unaffected by Savra's punch!
A fire elemental dodges the Innkeeper's attack.
A fire elemental dodges the Innkeeper's attack.
The concierge throws a steel dagger at a milky-white male centaur!
A milky-white male centaur's stony skin deflects the concierge's attack.
A fire elemental dodges the concierge's attack.
A Peacekeeper sentinel starts to concentrate.
A legionnaire captain's shield blocks a Peacekeeper sentinel's attack.
A fire elemental is unaffected by an astral watcher's punch!
Overall, a Peacekeeper sentinel has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

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