Persuasion question

grep · **Joined:** Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:50 pm **Posts:** 5522

I already have a command I type before I enter into situations where I may be forced into combat and unable to react swiftly. I assume bards can opt-in to the same feature. Its not perfect, but its saved me a couple times.

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:03 pm

I'm not entirely sure wimpy works, but it might. The other thing to consider, though, is most of the NPCs worth using persuade on track, and detect.

Tioras · **Posted:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:57 pm

Whenever anyone talks about persuade, all I can think of is "These are not the droids you are looking for."

juggernaut · **Posted:** Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:37 pm

ObjectivistActivist wrote:

juggernaut wrote:

If I remember well, persuasion does not allow NPCs to drop certain items. IE: the stock of a shopkeeper, certain decorative items the NPC wears, items that have been bound on the NPCs via certain scripts.

Persuasion does not allow a bard to force a NPC or a PC to drop an item of any kind, or to give that item to the bard or another person. The most it can do is force a NPC or PC to remove item X. Remove all is restricted from persuade's use as well, as is release all.

Well, not the last time I played a bard. I remember selling gems to leprechauns and persuading them to drop them afterwards. I guess they changed it ever since.

jhorleb · **Posted:** Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:51 pm

Yeah, they did Juggs.. I played a GM bard for a while and pretty much agree with OA on this one.

laeZ1 · **Joined:** Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:11 am **Posts:** 941

Just out of curiousity, but I always thought it was just Willpower that got in the way of persuasion, but when a High MR, lowish willpower mage agreed to let my character practice on him, she wasn't able to persuade him even once.

OA, you know a lot more about bards than I do, What are all the factors that go into play?

Konge · **Posted:** Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:26 am

I do believe it is a raw cha vs. wis check. As a sorc he probably had a high wis.

grep · **Joined:** Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:50 pm **Posts:** 5522

So hold on a minute...

A failed bash won't start combat, but a failed persuade will?

My world just ended a little.

Drewbag · **Posted:** Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:41 am

Thank god a failed bash doesn't start combat!

Quote:

A spelled-up charm misses his bash and falls flat on his face!

bs unlucky sorc

grep · **Joined:** Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:50 pm **Posts:** 5522

Drewbag wrote:

Thank god a failed bash doesn't start combat!

Quote:

A spelled-up charm misses his bash and falls flat on his face!

bs unlucky sorc

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