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Which PAR system is better in your opinion?
New PAR system 78%  78%  [ 29 ]
Old PAR system 22%  22%  [ 8 ]
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:07 am 
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There has been a new player in the last year?


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I've not really got accurate data to demonstrate who is and isn't new. I know one person who had never played this game before got to Paragon in well under a years time. At least a couple others in the past two years. Many of the characters with Paragon are over a year old. This is obviously a sign that it can be achieved.


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It's a sign to me that players who get it can keep it for a very, very long time. I'm pretty sure that every one of them knows they can keep their flag so long as they keep rewarding (random?) people and keep up their hours above whatever is believed to be minimum per month.

It's really hard to get paragon unless one of the current paragons deletes or for some reason doesn't log their minimum hours. They can theoretically go for months without getting any new rewards and still hold a paragon flag over a character who's gotten, lets say, ten rewards over the course of several months. Isn't that right?

If it is that doesn't seem very fair to me, or more importantly to the new and upcoming characters who are putting more time into the RP of their characters than some of the incumbent paragons.

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I am puzzled by your argument. I am the first to admit the PAR system is not perfect, but what do you want? It is not supposed to be something that every character has at least once. Theoretically, it is something to strive for, but it is really more of a burden than anything else. It should be rare for a brand new player to get it. If you have any actual ideas to refine or improve the system, we would love to hear the plan.


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instant_karma wrote:
I am puzzled by your argument. I am the first to admit the PAR system is not perfect, but what do you want? It is not supposed to be something that every character has at least once. Theoretically, it is something to strive for, but it is really more of a burden than anything else. It should be rare for a brand new player to get it. If you have any actual ideas to refine or improve the system, we would love to hear the plan.


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I'd like to see paragon character activity made a factor in the actual score used to determine the flag carriers, and not just a 'pass or fail' requisite for keeping the flags.


I'd like to see overall hourly activity, not just a minimum activity, incorporated as a requirement to encourage paragons to play more actively among players, or otherwise risk losing the flag to another equally worthy, yet more active character.

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I'd honestly like to see it abolished and bring back heroes, but that's a deep-down desire I know will never fly.


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As far as I know there's never been a requirement to give out rewards to keep Paragon status. There is a minimum hour requirement, like leadership. I'd be curious to see what Dulrik says about that kind of tweak.

Heroes...gah. Don't even get me started. (Yes I want heroes.) How hard is it to sell a little twinky amulet to people being equal to what Hero actually meant and does mean to everyone? I'd rather just toss all the amulets and do away with the idea of Heroes unless they actually are going to be legendary.


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Why are you all arguing what one player should have what paragons? There's someone this month with two paragon characters. That player is good though, one of the best SK has to offer.

PS. I wonder if Oukilis meant the Heroes system before Paragons so many years ago.


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There is a system of points about maintaining PAR flag that is based on the number of rewards you give per month. I know the minimum/basis is 10. I find the PAR system the best until now in SK, I only feel that PAR flag should require a few more hours per month, so the flag can not be hoarded with very few hours and sudden ninja rewards.


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There is a system of points about maintaining PAR flag that is based on the number of rewards you give per month. I know the minimum/basis is 10.

No this isn't correct. Its just an hour requirement.


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There is a system of points about maintaining PAR flag that is based on the number of rewards you give per month. I know the minimum/basis is 10.

No this isn't correct. Its just an hour requirement.


You say this with 100% certainty? This is pretty big news, really.


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