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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:03 pm 
The burn damage is worthless right now, 90% of like naked NPCs just shrug it off.

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And for being "arguably one of the most powerful combat spells"(says this in the help file) or whatever, should it really take me SEVEN, I repeat, SEVEN castings to kill some merc NPC in crappy [REDACTED] armor? I'm sure a priest would've killed him with like 4 harms, or a necro with 1 FoD.

I don't even want to think about the damage it's going to do against PC's with enchanted equipment, jeez.



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[HP:100%] [ME: 51%] [PE:100%]
> mode kill

You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, charring his flesh severely!

[HP:100%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP:100%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
>
A fire elemental's flaming bite slightly singes a stocky male half-elf's head.
A stocky male half-elf throws a throwing spear at you!
A stocky male half-elf's throw hits you.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's stomach, bruising it slightly.
A fire elemental dodges a stocky male half-elf's attack.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf has some small wounds and bruises.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 44%] [PE:100%]
> c magma stoc

You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, charring his flesh severely!
A stocky male half-elf howls in agony as the magma clings to his body!

[HP: 91%] [ME: 37%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 37%] [PE:100%]
>
A fire elemental winces in pain as it stubs its toe trying to kick a stocky male half-elf's armored form.
A fire elemental's flaming bite slightly singes a stocky male half-elf's waist.
A fire elemental's flaming bite slightly singes a stocky male half-elf's chest.
A fire elemental's flaming bite slightly singes a stocky male half-elf's chest.
A fire elemental dodges a stocky male half-elf's attack.
A fire elemental dodges a stocky male half-elf's attack.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf has quite a few wounds.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 37%] [PE:100%]
>
You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, charring his flesh severely!

[HP: 91%] [ME: 31%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 31%] [PE:100%]
>
A fire elemental causes a stocky male half-elf some slight wounds as its flaming bite singes his chest.
A stocky male half-elf dodges a fire elemental's attack.
A fire elemental's flaming bite barely burns a stocky male half-elf's right arm.
A stocky male half-elf's punch at a fire elemental's stomach is deflected by energy hide.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's stomach, causing a small wound.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf has quite a few wounds.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 31%] [PE:100%]
>
A stocky male half-elf's skin blackens from the unquenchable magma.
A stocky male half-elf unconcernedly brushes away his own waves of magma.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 31%] [PE:100%]
> c magma stoc

You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, charring his flesh severely!

[HP: 91%] [ME: 24%] [PE:100%]
> You will fight to kill.
A fire elemental's flaming bite barely burns a stocky male half-elf's chest.
A fire elemental's flaming bite lightly burns a stocky male half-elf's chest.
You crush a stocky male half-elf's chest, causing a deep gash.
You crush a stocky male half-elf's chest, causing a deep gash.
A stocky male half-elf wipes his boots in the face of a fire elemental!
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's stomach, causing a small wound.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's right toe, bruising it slightly.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf has some big nasty wounds and scratches.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 24%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 24%] [PE:100%]
>
A stocky male half-elf's skin blackens from the unquenchable magma.
A stocky male half-elf unconcernedly brushes away his own waves of magma.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 24%] [PE:100%]
> c magma stoc

A fire elemental's flaming bite barely burns a stocky male half-elf's head.
A fire elemental's flaming bite lightly burns a stocky male half-elf's chest.
A fire elemental misses a stocky male half-elf.
A stocky male half-elf slams into a fire elemental and sends it sprawling!
A stocky male half-elf's bash knocks the wind out of a fire elemental.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's chest, barely wounding it.
A fire elemental dodges a stocky male half-elf's attack.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf looks pretty hurt.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 24%] [PE:100%]
>
You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, charring his flesh severely!

[HP: 91%] [ME: 18%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 18%] [PE:100%]
> c magma stoc

A stocky male half-elf's skin blackens from the unquenchable magma.
A stocky male half-elf unconcernedly brushes away his own waves of magma.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 18%] [PE:100%]
>
A fire elemental's flaming bite lightly burns a stocky male half-elf's chest.
A stocky male half-elf dodges a fire elemental's attack.
A fire elemental's flaming bite barely burns a stocky male half-elf's right arm.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's left foot, causing a minor wound.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's chest, causing only a minor wound.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf looks pretty hurt.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 18%] [PE:100%]
>
You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, charring his flesh severely!

[HP: 91%] [ME: 11%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 11%] [PE:100%]
> c magma stoc

A fire elemental's flaming bite burns a stocky male half-elf's chest.
A fire elemental's flaming bite slightly singes a stocky male half-elf's left leg.
A stocky male half-elf dodges a fire elemental's attack.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's face, slightly bruising its cheek.
A stocky male half-elf punches at a fire elemental's right toe, bruising it slightly.
Overall, a stocky male half-elf is in awful condition.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 11%] [PE:100%]
>
A stocky male half-elf's skin blackens from the unquenchable magma.
A stocky male half-elf unconcernedly brushes away his own waves of magma.

[HP: 91%] [ME: 11%] [PE:100%]
>
You utter the words, 'waowa gsgrul'.
You unleash a torrent of magma on a stocky male half-elf, melting the flesh from his bones
A stocky male half-elf is DEAD!!
You hear a stocky male half-elf's death cry.
You get a single gold coin from a corpse of a stocky male half-elf.
You get a single copper coin from a corpse of a stocky male half-elf.
You junk a corpse of a stocky male half-elf.
A white and red chestplate falls out.
A white and red set of sleeves falls out.
A white and red set of gauntlets falls out.
A white and red pair of leggings falls out.
A white and red pair of boots falls out.
A white and red belt falls out.
Just keep it all.


Last edited by Syndal on Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:22 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:14 pm 
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I haven't been reading this thread post by post, but hasn't Dulrik suggested making the 'burn portion' of magma spray non-resistible? That would make magma spray fairly dangerous. Has it been decided that it would be done, or was decided that it would be too overpowered (due to no save)?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:17 pm 
I think I would've killed that NPC faster with acid blast. >_>


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Syndal wrote:
I think I would've killed that NPC faster with acid blast. >_>


Magic Missile even.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:21 pm 
My understanding is that warlocks are supposed to be THE DAMAGE DEALING WIZARD, yet Priests and Necros have them beat, and Sorcs are pretty close, and beat them if you factor in damage from pets.

Also, from my very brief testing with chain lightning, the spell seems to suck horribly, is chain lightning from failed recharges stronger than normal or something?


The helpfile is lying to me.

SK helpfile for warlocks wrote.
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Warlocks wield great destructive power


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:31 pm 
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I've tried to keep up with the arguments and think about this one for a while, but I have not been successful at all. I do have a three part tweak that I think will make warlocks more fun.

- Make every summoned elemental the same level of the person who conjured it up to the current max level for fire elementals. (I believe their levels are currently stagnant.)

- Change the elemental timer to only be used with the death of the elemental. It may or may not run through the warlock's death.

- Each elemental grants a marginal increase to the damage type of spells used by the conjurer.

This makes dispelling the elemental less effective, though it is still a nominally powerful tactic. The warlock will likely be forced to flee and re-conjure. There is more parody among elemental types, benefits coming from each. It gives warlocks slightly more oomph that they lost with the change to magma and makes other spells more worthwhile.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:52 pm 
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Gremlin24 wrote:
- Make every summoned elemental the same level of the person who conjured it up to the current max level for fire elementals. (I believe their levels are currently stagnant.)


The elemental levels aren't stagnant. The defining attribute between elementals is their AC rating. Their HP/ME/Level are all the same.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:00 am 
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FoD should be the most feared spell.

Sypher No.

Earth elementals are haste-able and have more HP.

And they are not taking into account immunities or reach.


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Sypher wrote:
Syndal wrote:
I think I would've killed that NPC faster with acid blast. >_>


Magic Missile even.



Yes.


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Elementals should get the resists of the warlock. Thats the main problem warlocks have right now.


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