Shattered Kingdoms

The two classes that a deep-elf excels at, sorcerer and necromancer, both have ways of completely negating Bolt of Glory. Instead of stacking magical protection, go old school and stack magic resistance and use spell ward. You can easily get 90%+ resistance to most spells doing that.

Yeah, it won't save you from magma spray or voodoo, but you'll have the deep-elf innate reduction to magic damage to help with those two spells. You can also use resist elements for magma spray. Deep-elves are fine. Players of the race are just terri-bad. Use magic resistance gear and just remove gear when you need spells to affect your own character.

I wanted to roll a deep-elf cause I like to RP them. But I must refuse because I do not want to be absolutely owned by BoG.

Delear won this fight, he didn't resist the first BoG, but he did the second. And he did not completely get owned by it. Just learn to play your class/race.

The rules do not apply to Delear. Using the one of the best necromancers in a long time to set a standard is idiotic. Dealer was not a common by any means. He knew how to use necromancers well and had many helpful contacts.

When the common player has a problem with a spell or skill it should be looked into, it doesn't mean things have to be changed. I mean looked what happened to the animate spell.

Eh, I'm not using it to set a standard.

I was just trying to point out that deep-elves do not as a rule get owned by BoG.

Necromancer deep-elfs and hellions seem to get it doubly bad. Unless I am reading the help files wrong.

My point is that deep-elves might need a tweaking to make them more appealing. Even something as simple as being able to recall to the deep-elf city.

I'm not sure BoG needs a change at all, people can call [REDACTED] if they want, but Ormak at lvl 46 about 1 week ago flat out killed Hedonaris in Uxmal and took only 3 percent damage from him. Hedonaris was like mid master. I don't think wimping paladins or BoG is all that great of an idea but some kind of something for deep-elves would be welcome.

I think they are elves but with 4 less pts of stats and more vulnerabilities. I would be happy if those 4 pts were added.

There was a time when Delear was 99% immune to ANY spell and not by magic resistance but pure saves and magic protection. (eg. more than 100 lightning bounces did something 2-4% dmg to an aged delf with no trained hps - triple fods did 8% etc etc). Even then Peso's paladin managed to land a BOG for 87% dmg.

Taking in mind that magma did 15% on the first hit (which is double dmg) and then I healed during the secondary dmg while standing(before the latest changes)...87% is totally insane. BOG is broken and it's been mentioned more than enough times. The only protection against it, is mirror image since magic resistance prohibites any protective spell.

What trully makes the spell overpowered is it's casting time, since whatever you are trying to cast in the mean while will be lost due to concentration loss- resulting to an obliteration through spamming "bog delf".

PS. I am not 100% sure of this but I have the impression that even if the BOG misses to a mirror image, still have chances for the nimbus to take effect on the target.

I'm middle of the road on this whole thing, but "prohibites any protective spell" is way too strong. It makes protective spells end up costing more mana to cast successfully due to failures/resists, and requires you to remove things to buff up to avoid the MR.

You can still buff up with MR.

P.S.: I'm having Deja Vu since I could have sworn I had the MR talk for casters with someone one day ago.