Shattered Kingdoms

I have no problem with what you're saying MourningSong. It sounds like a lot of fun. But I believe the reason a lot of people are complaining is the fact that the lighties/lightie friendly greybies have all these neat skill/spell sets, which is making the game unbalanced. That's my main concern at the moment.

That being said, I understand that the IMMs have lot going on and don't feel the need to [REDACTED] at them to get things done. Also, the certain player group that is trying to get the Adepts back has dwindled down to three characters who if they RP like Adepts, they don't do it in front of the general populous. I haven't seen much, if any, group RP from them concerning the Adepts besides them saying that someday they're going to be the Adepts. Of course, I do suppose the Adepts are a secret sect and they may just be keeping their rituals secret. Just because I'd do things differently doesn't mean they're doing things wrong.

Mostly speculative, but having seen how horribly impatient the p-base is, I'm guessing that the rest of the group still exists and will reappear miraculously if that group does "become the Adepts."

We had the same damn problem with the actual Adepts when the Orb was gone.

Solution:

Desdomos becomes possessed by the spirit of Caerbannog and revives the adepts.

It's got it all! Drama, possessions, evil and good!

I'm not sure what you think you know, or how, but I'll gladly state for the record that this is not necessarily the case. The long-term direction of things as it stands right now is indeed founded on the sum of at least three conflicting visions presented to me months ago by various playergroups [some of whom have been more active than others, yes], but there are certainly possibilities still open, and room for others to be woven into the tale.



Okay... hmmm. I guess what I'm trying to get across is that anything that's to come to pass in this regard is going to have to develop organically, that I'm not looking for the first excuse to pass out a cookie to the first person who can come up with some halfway passable RP based on OOC knowledge about what the Blood Path used to be.



Largely agreed. As a matter of fact, those who've experienced the first stirrings of Anything At All have done so as a result of the same initial approach.

This is really all I care to say about this publicly and OOCly.

Despite my irritations with Mourning Song once again talking about things she doesn't know about, my only real question here is...why is this still in Bug Discussion?

Because its just here to bug the imms?

On a more serious note, though, yeah, the adepts have been lost for a while. On the other hand, however, the RP that took them down was going on for a long time, and ive yet to see any 'real' PC counter-rp to get them back.

On a more OOC note, it is obvious that the adept skillset is being created anew so, its going to take some time to make skills that will be up to par with the rest of the cabals and not OP or just straight out wtf. If its the 'weakened' state of the darkie side you're worried about, just be comforted by the fact that when the adepts -do- return, they'll be the most interesting, most populated cabal SK has seen for years, perhaps even since its creation, as everyone will want in on the secret and new skills.

There's a difference between the GRP that was never actually finished (which I still can't say I liked) and the lead character just up and throwing his hands up in the air ICly. (which was what happened) Erevan, you're a Fist. If you saw something, then that would very much have been doomed to failure from the start. Here's something else interesting, though. When Vorak took off, I briefly had control of things.

To test the waters, and see if it would be possible to rp the dissolution of the adepts and a "fresh" start from scratch, I attempted to reset diplomacy to truce levels, because it was stupid to have people wasting resources to fight an organization that "didn't exist". I didn't admit to anything I did back then, didn't comment on the forums, didn't tell anyone oocly. Do you know how many cabals/tribunals bit at that? One. The cabal was declared dead, people who were known to be adepts didn't have powers, and still the lightie playerbase was STILL in must-win mode. At that point a little of the faith in the playerbase died in me.

Since then there have been five (5) total attempts/processes at restoring this organization that I have been aware of. To say that PCs are doing nothing (despite that some of them get bored and decide to roll lighties as well so that they can have powers or not get steamrolled into the dirt by the Lighties and the two current Hammer Jr. cabals) is utter bullcrap. To even think that you know better than the people who have put time and effort into this, and CONTINUE to put time and effort into it is condescending at best, Mourning Song, Erevan.

It would probably be best for people who just want to chime in with 'Rah rah rah, imms need to xxx' or 'rah rah rah, pc's need to xxx' to just sit down, and shut up.

EDIT: I hate how I have to go back and edit out the word [REDACTED] in my posts all of the time.

I won't deny that you had the best of intentions to do something good for the adepts and consequently for the game in general, but you can't expect from the players/leaders to act ic, based on what they know (or what they think they know) ooc. The adepts were a secret cult. None ic can know if they were disbanded or they were just hidden plotting. Half a year after they were gone for good I was farming to pay the war diplomacy costs. The tribunal members were asking me: "Why do we pay? They are gone" and the answer always was: "Are you sure?"

You got the control of a cabal that, just a while ago on its peek, had broken truces and screwed many people. So everyone found the chance and turned the favor when the said cabal lost its power. Anything but that would be ooc and it would make me lose the faith in the playerbase. And after all I wouldn't even mind if things were to remain as they are now. No adepts or any new dark cult. This thing happened ic so it's fine with me.

Obviously not anymore I can't.

But where's the humor?!