Shattered Kingdoms

Centaurs have the same CHA max as humans.

It's obviously a matter of boobs/moobs. If you're capable of having one or the other, you get high cha. With a feathered bird-chest I'm surprised they got more than 10 max cha.

Centaurs have more than max human non-bard cha, actually, I believe.

HELP CENTAUR says, "Centaurs are both strong and wise as well as somewhat charismatic, but can be a bit clumsy."

And I'm not pushing for 22 or even 20 cha for griffons. I just want a nice, medicore-ish 18 or 17. 15 is just rediculous.

Your faith has betrayed you. Your beliefs are wrong.

(non-bard) Human and centaur cha are identical.

And yes, I'm not talking about 22 cha or anything either. As I said near the beginning of this thread, 18 is reasonable.

Then of course the answer is to lower centaur CHA, and give them something else to compensate for it.

It makes sense for non-humanoids to be less charismatic to the mostly humanoid world.

I propose that griffons stay with 15 cha and centaurs, having at least a human-like face lower their cha to about 17-18.

I propose we make cha directly correlated to how humanish you look. So griffons get the lowest, then come centaurs, then sprites, dwarves, giants, gnomes, delves, elves, lings, helves, and finally humans at 25.

I have zero idea why elves have a cha of 24. In all of the history of SK, they are not very charismatic. They are usually barely worse than a (non-bard) human. In terms of how they are RP'ed and history.

Here why don't we do like every mmorpg, change everything around untill everyone is equal, then when its all said and done no one will want to play anymore cause no one will have an edge over the other player. These stats were set years ago....and they seem to work fine.