Shattered Kingdoms

Sorry, but where is the post describing this change? I'd like to try to understand it a bit better..Not getting outlawed for attacking a tribunal member in their home, is a bit..might I say stupid? My apologies if that's not how it works, but that is my understanding of it right now.

I mean, if anything you would think all guard NPC's would attack warring PC's on sight, as if they were outlawed. *shrug*

4/06/2007 Code Update (Addendum)
http://www.shatteredkingdoms.org/forums ... hp?t=15237

Your opinion has already been communicated in at least one thread. The reason for that change was to stop tribunal members from using an exploit to automatically outlaw and banish anyone they attacked. Where that thread is now, I'm not sure. You might take a look at the threads that were active during the time of that update.

Okay, thank you.

Are they? I can only think of one decent Tribunal (since I last played).

All of the others are seriously lacking in their utility or purposefulness, I've heard of a lot of reasons for this - both how defensible a city is and how well it was or has been built by ImmortalX. I think they all have their advantages though, you just have to be smart about it and use the resources you've been given.

Who knows whats been changed since then. I definitely wouldn't say they're over powered. I would say, however, that cabals have been given the short end of a stick by being thrown into some silly CTF system. I believe the reasoning behind that has been that the cities are supposed to be newbie friendly, not forcing players who would rather not be in the midst of a war to be in one?

I can think of a couple of pretty good solutions to this problem. For example - using the off villages as havens of sorts. Everclear in Taslamar for example. The cities would need to be rebuilt to support that kind of thing though, and it would spread a pretty thin playerbase even thinner. Players who wouldn't want to be involved in the Tribunal mess can easily already use these cities, since recalls are set to portal stones. But with inn/tavern bonuses limited to only the major cities the likeliness of this is pretty slim. I think if you put an inn/tavern in each city with a water source it would help a great deal with moving CRS to the tribunals where it belongs.

I will say this - some cities have a pretty crippling weakness if you can manage to use your head and figure out what it is.

I meant to say this before, but its awesome that someone is finally complaining about tribunals being too strong. It signals that they might just have been made powerful enough.

Might have? They absolutely were. The problem is that cabals paid the price for the tribunal's strength, which in my opinion should be the other way around. An organization which pulls the political strings of a country from the background should be far more powerful and influential than they are.

The tribunals should be the public arm of their sister cabal.

The Hammer and Peacekeepers are a prime example of that relationship, the problem is that the Hammer has no control at all over the country.

Can we stop trying to mix cabals and the corresponding Tribs together. If they were suppose to act as one they would all be Cabunals like the Empire.

Do you realize that once upon a time cabals DID have control? You might want to look back at certainly zhensh and taslamaran IC history.

It's either one way or the other, bub. Either they should be merged again or tribunals absolutely should be able to stand on their own, and Dulrik has made it abundantly clear that he wants to keep them separated. If you want lackeys, then play a hellion, sorc., or necro.

Yes, I know. Then they BROKE up, became separate entities with their own goals. Some of them even when to war with their cabal counterpart (see Taslamar and Ayamao history, not sure about Zhenshi or the North).