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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:18 pm 
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"We can't make peace with evil, sorry, you will always try to harm someone" was the response the FIST cabal gave me.
The fist DID truce with you for some time.

The second time you attempted that, was by telling me 'Truce with us or I will destroy you'

g-g-g-great job! You really really did try.

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You [REDACTED] held their relic for months on end,

True, and I hated myself for it, but when the RP was 'GUARD THE ORB OR ELSE THE WORLD IS DOOMED' I had little choice. Guarding the blood orb for those months hurt the fist as much as it hurt the adepts. The cabal was frozen to doing nothing else but sit there and sit on the orb, waiting for one of the many plans to get rid of it to pass through the imm comity.

As always, your inability to keep a conversation civilized is displayed through other comments in your last post. If you believe my comments are [REDACTED], Don't read them. I thought you might actually conduct yourself in the forums, but it seems you're here just to cause a rise. Enjoy yourself, I think i'll spare myself from reading your continuing attempts to boycott everyone else's game because you can't settle for what the game gives you. If you want a game that's going to give you exactly what you want, why don't you make one yourself?

Enjoy your game thran, I'm out.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:01 pm 
I'm sorry, I get tired of dealing with the same [REDACTED] and lose my patience of being courteous.

You can cover the [REDACTED] all you want in ketchup, but in the end, it's still a pile of [REDACTED]. You've got no leg to stand on and I actually don't think it hurt you at all.

Let's not forget the [REDACTED] bragging you do over yim, the fact you avoided dealing with the blood orb for all those months, and the [REDACTED] poor excuse you gave "oh noes ICly I believe blah blah blah".

[REDACTED]. [REDACTED]. Poor. You're a horrid example.


But, regardless of your idiotic judgment calls, the fist cabal is faulty to begin with in its current place.

All these cabals were set up before other factions and crs, so essentially, many need work to still fit in to the game.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:08 pm 
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You should take your own advice grakus. Stop pooring ketchup on your own [REDACTED] to try to stop making it stink. People already gave valid reasons why the fist is here and why they aren't the Talons. If you don't agree with it, fine. Just stop acting like the spoiled child that wishes everything to be the way they want.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:25 pm 
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You should take your own advice grakus. Stop pooring ketchup on your own [REDACTED] to try to stop making it stink. People already gave valid reasons why the fist is here and why they aren't the Talons. If you don't agree with it, fine. Just stop acting like the spoiled child that wishes everything to be the way they want.


No one has yet to give a valid reason why they aren't like a reserved Hammer of Light.

Or why it's lightie only. Or hell, why the cabals weren't changed when tribunals/crs was added to game.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:43 pm 
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Fist aims are unselfish = lightie only.

They are a different force from the hammer of light just like all cabals it depends on their leader as to how extreme their views are. In the face of an end of the world RP its going to take a while for them to calm down. Which from the RP I have seen it has/is happening. If you cant see it perhaps role a lightie yourself and be around for some of the RP.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:57 pm 
Again. Fail.

No one has yet to explain how the Fist is anything but hammer mark 2 when it comes to CRS and the current system.

MC, by the same token, wants peace from everyone by ruling everyone. You can't use this 'ZOMG WE WANT PEACE' as any real justification for a cabal anymore. Not with CRS. That argument is 100% null and void -because the fist can not kill lighties and raid their relics-.


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It's called political and philosophical differences. If you still don't understand. You never will. Don't take it as an insult. Some people just don't get things. This is yours.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:53 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:01 pm 
Request for the top post to be edited out for pure flame content. If you're going to criticize me, at least provide reasons backing your claims. I'm all open to criticism, and while I had the upper hand on the mud (the FIST cabal had no relic, which balanced the mud for good v evil) I think I did a fairly good job keeping in line with my IC character and spreading his flavor of terror to the rest of the realms, including former allies. But I don't claim to be anything successful. So if you have some real suggestions, please, give them forth -- otherwise, you can pipe down.

And, my point isn't that the FIST cabal isn't living up to its current standards (learning to read is great) but that the FIST standards are out of the scope of SK and they need to be redone since SK has radically changed but the cabals have not.

So long as CRS exists and the FIST are not allowed to kill Hammer, we have a problem and the deck is perma-stacked against evil.

What currently is the issue is that Dulrik is forcing poor RP and the breaking of diabolic alignment/Adept rp by forcing the adepts (the most hated group in the realms, even hated by the MC traditionally) to constantly acquire 'allies' and water down their evil purpose.

By shoving FIST into a gray aura, selfish, pacifist cabal they can still do their martial arts thing and still 'free' the enslaved, but they can now hit Taslamar and the Hammer and the Druids for the trouble they start.

If Dulrik printed out the cabal standings between the cabals since the inception of the diplomatic stances, I'm willing to bet that the Hammer/Druds/Fist have never gone to war with each other much, except in isolated instances, and mostly remain as allies, once in a while trucing when a tiff occurs. They still always aid each other.

Take a look at the CoN/MC/Adepts/Harlequins records...much more scattered.

This is a very logical, very realistic change that will only serve to benefit the mud.

Or, Dulrik can remove the FIST from CRS and their skills then. The cabal went -dead- when there was no relic. So I'm positive its the concept that attracts people. *nods* (subtle hint there, folks)


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So it's not your fault the adepts got disbanded but it's the fist's fault for being a light aura cabal... So you want the rp behind the fist to change because you can't play a diabolic character...

You cannot play a trully diabolic character because you cannot face the truth that such roleplay will only help you make enemies...Well if you need to be on the winning side to play someone don't play in a game where eq is limited and can be actually stolen from you.

I will note that your own inability to support this roleplay brought you down. And hellions are not diabolic.. they have a bent for power and honor and that is a bit different than the adept roleplay and that is what makes it interesting. You are a tool of the dark ones and since the blood magic was lost it is considered a failure. Graku's failure both in and out of character.

You want the fist to be nerfed for a second time out of spite and fury about you having to depend on others to survive. Face the truth you cannot survive in this game without it. With CRS and the current economic system no cabal/tribunal can.

Again let me remind you: rub the dirt from your eyes. You failed.


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