Shattered Kingdoms

I think we should keep it simple... Changing one adept spell to a skill would be nice (pressure point as stated) and since it is the same effect it is not likely to be overpowered... Should be easy to code as well...

The only problem is that if the adepts get tanks they could be overpowered as a cabal...

So here's how I think I see this working
Skill Mangle
Syntax Mangle left/right arm/leg target
Powered by an Adepts bloodlust the Mangle Skill allows you to target and attack the (bleeding?) limb of your enemy with such force that it renders that limb completely useless.

The skill has to have a condition or else it would just be sunder right arm enemy and that is a bit overpowered I'm not sure of the varying degrees of damage a limb goes through but I think maybe this skill could be a tide turner instead of a I win button. I do think there should have to be some reagent before this could be used (the blood of the injured limb in this case) and only certain weapons can be used to mangle just like only certain weapons can be used to do that Hammer thing that they do.

Ew. No. Stop suggesting changes to a spell that doesn't need changing.

What needs happening is a new dark-aura cabal similar to the Hammer of Light that makes its home in the deep and/or Uxmal.

I wasn't here for the starting of the cabals/tribunals, but what I have been told about the starting makes me think that it was actually players who decided to run with an idea to form a group. Even if I am wrong, though, I would think a long standing, non-coded player group would be more go further to convince D and the rest of the IMMs that there should be another cabal/tribunal rather than simply pulling one out of thin air.

So, basically, why doesn't anyone just try to start a cabal/tribunal ICly and work from there? Maybe another cabal could branch off from an existing one?

wow, um...

that is actually a really good idea.

Sometimes it's ok to Quote....

Would be nice but then wertsnuts got cursed, the mangos were insulted, and pretty much any playergourp is disbanded after a month or so, and even the ones that are not are dead within one generation of characters...

I'm going to assume you are joking if you think those player groups had legitimate chances at becoming cabals or tribunals. Aside from the brood, I don't know if I have seen anyone attempt to make a non-family, cabal-type player group in a while. As well, I suggested breaking into a sub-section of a cabal. While those groups might have done something like that, it really wasn't the type of thing I was talking about.

An idea might be to join the MC and try to break the midnight-cabal portion off of the legions of the east. As much as I have been against the idea, you would then have two groups and have your dark crusading group. As well, a certain leader could possibly break a piece of the Adepts off to make his own blood army or crusaders of darkness. Then that cabal could be split in two to make one group that acts more like a church (anti-fist) and the other that acts more like anti-hammer.

This is just a rough outline of a suggestion, and by no means is it limited to just this. My suggestion is meant to get people to think creatively and in game rather than continue to gripe on the boards about how what they think they need.

Aaaaand, I think Dulrik might be more keen on the idea of starting a new group if he sees there are the numbers to support it. Many people, including me to some degree, wish there were a few less options, not more, and I think that is one of the primary reasons there hasn't been a new group aside from all of the work.