Shattered Kingdoms

I've seen this from both sides, and I really don't like the solution of attacks against tribunal members somehow being legal. There's a better way to deal with this.

Starting with the solution:

Don't let banishment be permanent. Let it slowly eat away at someone's sentence. (Say, 1 crime every IC year or so.) When there are no more crimes left, the next reduction removes the banishment itself. So if you force a single crime on someone, then banish him, he's back in 2 IC years.

Why is the other solution bad?

1. Attempted assassination of a tribunal member is IC cause for banishment. (Note this is different from merely attacking a tribunal member in an attempt to escape.) Attempt murder on a cop in RL, and see how well the justice system treats you.

2. There are times when banishing someone for petty crimes is appropriate. My last griffon character mouthed off to a CoN member about all the necromancers he'd killed before he'd been stopped, and how he was going to come back to kill many more. The only charge against him was attempted low murder - but didn't he deserve to be banished?

3. There's even times when trying to force a crime on someone is appropriate. That same griffon character did it as a Zhensh tribunal - after the "victim" confessed to killing griffons, and swearing to further "reduce the overpopulation". Again, what's the IC reasoning for keeping this person around? (Do keep in mind that not all tribunal members are principled.)

4. Finally, FORCING CRIMES DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT THE VICTIM'S ACTIVE COOPERATION. If you don't use an active attack command, and flee before you kill, you don't commit a crime. Really, is this so hard?

Banishment is fine as it is. If you remove it, we'll have deathmark abuse as we had it in the past. I know if I had a trib leader with deathmark, I'd deathmark every possible enemy of my kingdom at every login(as the system allows you now), hell, I'd even make a simply alias and do a simply trib banish sithara; trib banish arsilan; trib banish melithindlee; trib banish thayian etc etc. You get the point, even if it's a bit outdated.

A few things now about banishment.

Economy is a joke as it is now. I haven't played since Golg, but I was big part of why economy is a joke even now as I saw. I can roll a char, plvl him to mentor and have endless obsidians within a couple of hours. So don't QQ about banishment and how tribunals can be hurt by it. They can't, simple as that. If you cry about economy problems, you simply haven't played SK enough to know a few mechanics.


Oh I loved your endless QQing in leaders' faction.

Thing is, it was a hard coded answer to pardon Glasia's hard coded banishment. Simple as that. Never happened but at the end you were the one QQing about the lost obsidians. I simply aided her in doing hard coded evil things to your tribunal bank account.

Which brings me to my next point...


That's what I'm talking about. A priest can simply aid every single raid in a city on mode stun and auto assist off, healing the attackers, then properly wording out when in danger and returning any time to open up a free gate for gate ganks, without ever committing a hard coded crime. Banishment should remain as it is, allowing a banishment for a simple attempted theft or mugging. If this is to be changed, then deathmark should return, on top of banishment for cases of healers and generally classes that hurt tribunals without commiting hard coded crimes(God only knows how many gaters/lockpickers I wanted banished from Krychire as Golg).

On what Morovik says, a priest won't simply sit there and commit any crimes, he won't even come alone, but just dart inside and open a gate for possible gate ganks from remote but still close positions. At least that's what was happening when I was still playing SK.

So the answer is simple. If you can't RP the banishment, too bad for you. Someone will send a log to an imm and you'll get a huge [REDACTED] curse, while the enemy gets a pardon for the unfair banishment. Of course this leaves certain tribs with more power than others(like CoN for example), but who said it's easy to play a lightie full of mercy?

PS: Hello SK players btw.
PPS: Since I had only CoN trib leaders as a player, I guess it's ok to say that evil > good. Oh the joy of endless merciless banishment. I miss these days.

I WANT the DEDMARK

I still stole your lewt and put the gank on you.

And I got it back eventually, I got even more lewt.

In the end you were the one that cried as a player though, not myself.

Sucks to be you I guess.

PS: Didn't I get to kill your necro also and you never managed to retaliate?

You knizzay whizzat, Playa? I dizzy care with my forty-fo' mag. You sizzay we all know you suck motha fucka. You didnt even do hizzay ta me . Im crazy, you can't phase me. My necrobitch was on tha way out anyway. I D-to-tha-izzidnt care n' [REDACTED]. I stiznill sacked yo loot, ganked you twice wit mah mizzy gangsta n you couldnt brotha up tha courage ta attack me. I win hands dizzown . It dont stop till the wheels fall off. I had you intimidated fo' sheezy. You just bounced off of mah awesizzles ya feelin' me?. Give it up, you suck too mizzay fo' sheezy.