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 Post subject: Request abuse
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:48 am 
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[Objects help] request

Syntax: request <object>

This power is granted to those few good people who are deemed worthy. You are
allowed to request items be given to you from NPCs. They do this so that good
people can be equipped to fight evil without resorting to killing others. This
is an ability which is watched very closely. Requested items are not to be
given to any other person. You may only request items which you yourself plan
to use. If you no longer have a use for an item, you must destroy it. Please
follow these guidelines lest you find yourself being punished.

OK, I'm tired of seeing obviously requested stuff in HQs(tribunal and cabal ones).

Or are you allowed to do a run as a GM max CHA elf(example because of high CHA) at all lightie NPCs that hold some EQ after a crash/reboot, get like 600-700 lbs of decent lewt only to drop them inside your safehouse?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:08 am 
I am 110% positive this didn't need its own thread on the forums.

The extra ten percent is for emphasis.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:25 am 
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Maybe it just needed a wee bit of clarification.

Character X dies who may have had a lot of req'd armor.
Character X has something come up and has to log out.
Members of X's group recover the body and dump it into HQ.
Amor waits for player X.

Character Y dies and character Z picks the stuff off and tosses it into HQ Z.
Members of Y raid and recover Y things and dump it into HQ Y.

Any number of things could lead to such gear in HQ.

Example: There was a day (I discovered later) Mr. Ghent's giant strength wore off, and there was a trove of things I tripped on in a large container in the middle of nowhere. Things were taking to a HQ. I heard about
it later and chuckled. Now Ghent had other means other than request to get the stuff sure, but the subject of 'how this kind of gear gets into someone's HQ and just sits there...) Don't think most of it stayed there
long, either. Just saying, there are ways things get where they get
unrelated to requesting (ie charm/pursude/bit of luck)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:01 am 
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Did it ever occur to you that the lighties might not have requested the item? There are other ways to get things, like I dunno, PvP.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:08 am 
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Of course all these can happen, but when you see items that are really hard to get without request, on the floor, for several RL days, well something seems wrong.


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You know those greeks that keep three or four GMs with lewt, hoarding, and never do anything with any of their characters for the entire lifespan of their characters, that just complain and complain and complain? Yea, they make this less fun. :cry:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:15 am 
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If someone does nothing with his char, he gets dehoarded at month reboot.

If he does nothing for enough hours to keep the lewt, he propably is idle.

How hard is it to kill an idle char for 30-40 hours a month?

Far easier than raiding a cabal HQ to recover a requested piece of lewt someone has dropped there. Not to mention lighties attacking lighties is generally a no no(which is the main complaint about request gathering of lewt).


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:24 am 
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Provide an example of how something was requested, and then simply dropped in an HQ and then perhaps something will be done. Otherwise I believe it's been made clear this is only speculation. The fact here seems to be 'somehow a lot of gear that is on white aura NPCs is winding up in HQ of various organizations for extended periods of time.'

Would you be complaining so much if you knew a buncha darkies killed a buncha white aura NPCs, and were later PKd and then the stuff was put in a white aura HQ? Are you just complaining because the gear is just in HQ?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:29 am 
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The usual that I see almost after every reboot is mithril armor from a certain judge NPC being dropped in HQs.

Being from a judge, it's nearly impossible for someone to take this armor again and again unless it's done with certain cabal abilities.

And now is not the only time I've seen pieces of said armor all over the floor. Also I've seen in the past requested light only pieces of armor dropped in places as well, so you can't exactly say a darkie killed the NPC, grabbed the lewt, then was killed in PvP and the armor ended up in HQs.


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Get off your lazy butt and do something. :wink: QQing is bad for you.


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