Shattered Kingdoms

Even miscreants wouldn't do that, Cyra. It clearly states in their help file that they aren't out to kill people.

Yes they would.

I dunno, if your name was say Hitler, and you didn't like Jews, you would round them up and kill them. Anybody that protected them or that got caught around them while you were killing them would just be an unlucky person that died as a result of being in the wrong place in the wrong time.

If your miscreant has developed racist attitudes toward say halflings, and they need to be eradicated to further their goals, you bet your [REDACTED] those halflings would be roasted.

Of course how it is worded makes them seem like the diet coke of evil, but from my experience, if someone needs to die for a miscreant to further their goals then they're going to kill them.

The diabolic thing to would be to stab an innocent bystander in the face, laugh at them and then walk away.

I taunt you so you attack me, and I outright kill you, then later I outlaw/banish you just because of a rumor you play with the enemy. I have seen him do this firsthand, and have heard of him doing it on more than one occassion. Guilty until proven innocent and murdered on sight, then fully looted.

This is Arsilan handing out banishments like candy far too often, and one of the many reasons he is playing a miscreant instead of a lightie no matter what his score or attributes listing show.

Spare us your vitriol, Fepel. I was told by the leaders of the Hammer that your character killed a Hammer member, just to acquire an item off of him.

Later, the murderer had the gall to show up in the capital city of Exile, prancing around like he owned the place, after having violently murdered and stolen from a member of the Taslamaran military, the Hammer of Light.

It's a clear case of guilty when proven guilty. Once having violated a member of the the Taslamaran military, you automatically had your visitation rights in the country revoked. Not to mention other questionable acts linked to that character, lead to my character getting rid of your character in a non-benign manner.

I suppose next time I should just go "QQ, you're so mean, plz don't hurt anybody else Mr. bad man. Because if you do, I'll just stand here impotently, and wait for you to kill me. Sorry to trouble you!"

Have you ever tried that? It just might work.

Miscreants aren't really all that complicated. They just--don't--care. Nuff zed.

My only statement to all this will be, if what I said on page 15 is really unprincipled action, then 3/4ths of all hammer throughout the history of SK should have been unprincipled or anarchistic, so make the Hammer's help file implicitly say that grey-auras are allowed within ranks. There should only be one fully lighty cabal (fist) and one fully darkie cabal (Adepts).

Please take your flames (read: tears) where they belong, Fepel.

*vainly tries to stop the inevitable shitfight*

This got moved to Gameplay awhile ago, so no flaming is allowed. By all rights this thread is about dead anyway, since Cyra invoked Godwin's Law.

Er...my argument doesn't really follow that style.

I suppose I will just have to not use "Hitler" or "Nazi"

Instead, I will offer in the future reductio ad Stanley Williams *nods sagely*

However, I do think you're right and that the thread is long enough already.