Shattered Kingdoms

Just because people are the same aura doesn't mean crap.

Listen.

Dark aura people are not a clique. They aren't buddies. They rape and pillage each other just as they rape and pillage lighties. Sometimes they work together. So rezzing the same aura for an xp bonus is kinda lame, as is losing xp for rezzing a different aura.

The fact of the matter is quite simple; give rez the pulse-racing attribute and make the victim stand for say, five seconds. Long enough for a priest to look and see what aura they are.

There is no need to penalize priests for the [REDACTED] tactics other people use to get life and run away. (event "you have been resurrected" -> recall).

Close enough to what I was thinking and discussing with a friend to chime in.
When returned to life, a body shouldn't be ready to up and jump. Their movement should need half to full recovery, and there should be a tick (or two, the gate tick gets annoying when they open/close on top of each other) or a certain # of seconds coded (30-60). Heck even give the newly revived a pecho or two while they 'adjust' to their new body to make it 'interesting.' But it should also improve the RP of 'I'm alive/recall' which you don't just see when someone's managed to trick a priest, but when people are overlooking appropriate thanks to whatever god and person brought them back.

Carita

That's a good point to bring up to newbies. Unless the resurrecting priest dismisses you immediately, you should give thanks to the priest's god by word and action (social/emote).

As for this "Priests should primarily resurrect their own faith" idea, some priests already give members of their faith a substantial advantage. Certainly when I played my priest, faith members jumped to the head of the queue, and weren't dragged into extensive roleplay unless they wanted to be. However, Pyrathia is a pantheistic world. One can honor a priest's god without totally devoting oneself to him/her/it. There's no compelling reason to turn these people away completely.

Okay, I will reiterate....

You still have not given any reason WHY resurrections should be any more difficult to get than they are now. The explanations "Wich is WAY TO EASY TO GET" and "I dont think thiere should be a technical problem about making ress harder to get" do not explain WHY resurrection should be more difficult to get.

The rez system is not broken, and you have given no explanation of why it is broken that it should be made more difficult. The only thing that you have supported is the argument that some people choose to use YIM and other OOC methods of cheating. The issue of people playing the game through OOC means is completely separate from that of resurrection. Even if the changes that are presented here were implemented, it would NOT affect those people who cheat. It would simply make resurrection more difficult for people of all auras to get- and I still have seen/heard nothing to convince me that it is "too easy" or any evidence/reason explaining why it SHOULD be more difficult to get... especially in a game like SK where PC deaths are abundant.

Quite the contrary, actually... the changes suggested here would make life difficult ONLY for n00bs and those people who do NOT use the OOC methods for resurrections.

The ONLY suggestion made in this thread that should be considered for implementation is the pounding heartbeat (no insta-recall) for resurrected persons. Nothing else would do anything to add ANY value to the game's playability or enjoyment.

Reason It should be harder is.... *remember only mechanical arguments*

1. death quest
2. reincarnate
3. Breath of life
4 Raise dead
5. It SHOULD be hard to REGAIN life once dead...


Plain and simpe thiere are to many methods of gaining life... Ress should be made harder to get so people might actually use the others...


on a side note....

If someone lies to gain life and recalls..... The priest should call his followers to strike him down... I see no reason to keep the instiant recall from a ress....

Okay, it's offical, you've lost your mind. If you want it harder to be rezzed then giving rapid heartbeat will aid that for those that try to deceive their way to life. The priest can then send them back into the river immediately.

This thread has really (except for the rapid heartbeat idea) been a waste as everyone here has disagreed with you on your proposed ideas. The best thing to do if you see this taking place send up a prayer about it immediately and log it and pm it to the imm's as well, then it's up to them to determine the wrongness of the act. The priest would have to have some idea of why he'd be willing to rez someone of opposite aura.

To be honest, I think if even one of your ideas gets put in, then the Priest class within the Pbase is just going to dwindle to nonexistent. Hell for some faiths, they already are. All of your ideas really put excessive limitations on the way a person can RP. Things like this shouldn't be hard coded but reported when witnessed.

Loosing XP For ressing people of different aura does not limit or deny RP in any manner.... People can still do it but With the XP cost I am sure priest will not be so willing to ress those people who might oppose thiere aura unless they give good RP ... So there is not hard coding that denys RP in anyway....


Also... if priest can have some spell that makes it so they can see the aura of the spirit they are talking to then the fast heartbeat will not be needed... And even if the no recall after a ress is put in it still will do nothing to help priest who ress people who they should not for various reasons so it is not a solution....

If the priest class dwindles down.... you can still
breath of life/raise dead/ death quest/reincarnate...
And for the priest who stick around they will have added muscle... they will be able to deny your ress if you offend them, or for any pety reason they want...

I have decided to write examples of what *key word* I *key word* think is the ress problem... Hope you dont get mad I wont name names and I will be vague...

EXAMPLE 1....
Light aura priest ress dark player becuase they are both in the same cabal/tribunal... while the priest may want to help his god may not be so pleased his name is being taking to give life to a evil man...

Example 2....
OOC contacts.... I know that XXX is my OOC friend I will ress him... who cares about aura I can think of BS reason to ress... While it will not end this type of BS RESS.... it will at least make it so the priest pays a little something...XP.... If they use the same alignment to ress then you cant really get to mad at the RP can you.....

Now... I dont see how making it so that they cant recall will help these situations at all... I DO see the loosing XP curbing it a bit....

Now... I hope some of you will see why I feel the way I do... not that you have to agree with me but at least you can understand my reasons...

Here's an idea:

Convince your friendly (or unfriendly) local shaman to seance for you while you have detect aura up. When they are seanced, look at the room. Talk to them in person. Then when you're satisfied, have the shaman exorcise them and then you can bring them back if you want.

The priest should not give the dark character life willingly. This should end up in a blemish/curse. No problem here. And, if he wants to help him, but steal do it vindictively, there is always the choice of raise dead instead. Still gets the job done, but isn't too nice

Okay, there are three situation for this. One, the priest knows IC that he is acceptable to his god. No problem rezzing here. Two, the priest knows IC that the character is not acceptable to his god. To help this, see advice from first quote. Three, the character does not know the character's alignment IC. If the character to be rezzed values some kind of truth, he shouldn't be asking the priest of opposite aura to be rezzed. If he lies, it should be dealt with IC by his leader. If he is the leader or is not a part of an organization, it should go straight to a curse. If the priest is light and the character is dark, he should deal with it IC (send him back to the River, etc...) If he does not, his HF should take care of it. If he is the only HF, his god should come down IC, blemish him, smite him, blah blah blah...

Basically my point is that all of your posts in here were already answered, Mezcao. I just summarized the answers. So, would you PLEASE STOP POSTING THE SAME IDEAS THREE TIMES PER PAGE... [/quote]