Sanura and Jano

Mythrilshotgun · **Joined:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm **Posts:** 149

Edit to add: Hi, a new day, distance, and reflection, I realize I'm being very unfairly snarky, snide, and unfairly rude to those who had their perceptions and their reasonings. I will not erase any of it, as I don't want to hide what I did, but please read with the context that I am, at the end of the day, the sole one responsible for my decision.

Hi! It's Sanura! And Jano, for that matter. I really liked playing SK, but I've hit two walls. The first, as a Graybie sorc, I didn't really feel like I got to see anything endgame related. Still haven't killed Radi or seen Somnium, so I still don't fully know what that guild thing is. Cuz she's my first ever GM! Just felt super lonely, and the only time most people would want her around were for runes, with the exception of a few folks.

So, I made Jano. I wanted community. Felt a bard would be useful, and I knew the Lighties had a bard, so I wanted to fill a niche. I like Jano, I like the ideas and story beats behind Jano. I've tried. But I keep being hunted down every morning I play, and with no assistance, bards just can't 1v1, especially when Summon PK'd. I the player don't have the fortitude to withstand that every day, doubly so if I'm going to be mocked for my inexperience on logs.

So, I have four options. Be hunted, Be lonely, Invest at least fifty hours into a new character to even PLAY the game. Or just play something else. Think I'll stick with the last option. But just so people know why their rune battery left, here it is.

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o [Scores] Sanura - Wandering Witch o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Status: Grandmaster(1) Race: Human Class: Sorceror o
o Kingdom: Zhenshi Religion: Mira o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Coins: zero o
o Carrying: 10/12 items Load: 12.0/265.0 pounds o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Health: Excellent Mental: Pulsating Physical: Fresh o
o Attribute points: 0 Wimpy: 0 percent Mode: Kill/neutral o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o You are standing. o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o You have earned 10 loyalty tokens with this character. o
o You have spent 1 loyalty tokens with this character. o
o You can spend 0 loyalty tokens for this character. o
o You have 12 unspent loyalty tokens in total. o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o You are over one-third of the way to the next level. o
o You have played 182 hour(s) so far. o
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Amateur - dagger (superb) sling (very good)
staff (very good) dodge (superb)
scrolls (superb) staves (good)
swim (superb) wands (superb)
taslamaran tongue (mastered) uxmaln tongue (mastered)
zhensh tongue (mastered) empire tongue (superb)
aghelian tongue (very good) sylvan tongue (superb)
firmyrn tongue (superb) deep tongue (superb)
taslamaran writing (mastered) uxmaln writing (superb)
zhensh writing (superb) empire writing (very good)
aghelian writing (good) sylvan writing (very good)
firmyrn writing (superb) deep writing (superb)
Novice - meditation (mastered)
Apprentice- crossbow (good)
Journeyman- trance (superb)
Veteran - self defense (good)
Expert - scribe (very good)

Amateur - armor (mastered) change sex (mastered)
detect buried (mastered) detect magic (mastered)
magic missile (mastered) ventriloquate (very good)
Novice - color spray (mastered) continual light (very good)
detect hidden (mastered) detect invis (mastered)
fly (mastered) invis (mastered)
Initiate - enlarge (fair) giant strength (superb)
identify (mastered) infravision (mastered)
shrink (mastered) sleep (good)
Apprentice- acid blast (mastered) cancellation (very good)
mirror image (superb) shield (very good)
teleport (very good) understand (very good)
Journeyman- airy water (very good) charm person (superb)
dispel magic (superb) etherealform (superb)
haste (superb) tongues (good)
Veteran - locate object (superb) mass invis (superb)
polymorph (very good) summon (very good)
Expert - detect aura (superb) enchant armor (mastered)
enchant item (mastered) enchant weapon (mastered)
recharge (very good)
Mentor - depetrification (fair) gate (superb)
petrification (fair) spell ward (good)
Master - final strike (very good)

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o [Scores] Jano of the Idatsa-teh - Troubadour o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Status: Grandmaster(1) Race: Centaur Class: Bard o
o Kingdom: Empire Religion: Pantheist o
o Cabal: The Midnight Council (Member) o
o Tribunal: The Imperial Legions (Member) o
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o Coins: 4 platinum, 3 gold, 8 silver, 9 copper o
o Carrying: 11/16 items Load: 296.2/425.0 pounds o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o Health: Excellent Mental: Pulsating Physical: Fresh o
o Attribute points: 0 Wimpy: 15 percent Mode: Kill/neutral o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o You are standing. o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o You have earned 5 loyalty tokens with this character. o
o You have spent 6 loyalty tokens with this character. o
o You can spend 7 loyalty tokens for this character. o
o You have 12 unspent loyalty tokens in total. o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o You still have a long way to go before the next level. o
o You have played 77 hour(s) so far. o
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Innate - kick (mastered) endurance (mastered)
meditation (mastered)
Amateur - dagger (very good) siegecraft (good)
sling (good) staff (very good)
sword (mastered) whip (superb)
dance (superb) swim (superb)
taslamaran tongue (superb) uxmaln tongue (superb)
zhensh tongue (superb) empire tongue (mastered)
aghelian tongue (very good) sylvan tongue (mastered)
firmyrn tongue (very good) deep tongue (superb)
taslamaran writing (very good) uxmaln writing (superb)
zhensh writing (very good) empire writing (mastered)
aghelian writing (good) sylvan writing (mastered)
deep writing (very good) midnight cipher (superb)
Novice - dodge (superb) trip (superb)
haggle (superb) juggle (average)
sneak (good)
Initiate - dirt kicking (superb) tumbling (very good)
second attack (mastered) pick lock (very good)
streetwise (fair)
Apprentice- crossbow (very good) parry (superb)
self defense (superb)
Journeyman- disguise (good) disarm (very good)
fast healing (superb) lore (superb)
midnight plate (superb)
Veteran - brawling (very good) shield wall (very good)
third attack (superb)
Expert - enhanced damage (mastered) phalanx (good)
leadership (very good) plant (very good)
scrolls (superb)
Mentor - persuade (good)

Amateur - songs of protection (superb)
Unaffected By Thy Hand Dark Shall Rule The Realms
The Miner's Saint Fear Not The Flame
Armor Of Song And Might Pointy Things
songs of war (superb)
To Live In Gloried Song Away! Away!
Beat the Drums! Slash, Stab, Rend, Smash
The Crash Of Battle Soldier Go
c major (mastered)
Novice - songs of healing (superb)
River, O River Flesh And Bone
All Yon Childe
Initiate - songs of death (very good)
Shorten Their Time
Apprentice- f minor (superb)
songs of antimagic (very good)
Playing With Fire
Journeyman- countersongs (very good)
The Traveller's Song
Veteran - songs of dancing (good)
Lift Your Feet
Expert - b augmented sixth (very good)
songs of magic (superb)
Yon Magical Twister Spells Of Power
Mentor - songs of silence (average)
All Is Quiet
Master - songs of sleep (very good)
Done Now Be

Sorry. If I come back, I'll stay away from anything close to PK. I just can't handle it. Oh, and I was Bex, too, but he barely counts.

Tragonis · **Posted:** Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:03 pm

I felt like we made progress when we talked today, guess not. Don't stay gone too long.

Mythrilshotgun · **Joined:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm **Posts:** 149

The log being posted and straight up being told I should just quit kinda pushed it over the top, honestly.

I admit I do kinda regret going nuclear, but oh well.

Pook · **Posted:** Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:32 pm

Mythrilshotgun wrote:

The log being posted and straight up being told I should just quit kinda pushed it over the top, honestly.

I admit I do kinda regret going nuclear, but oh well.

I recall once being in the Legion a long time ago and not having all my PK things together, and I was getting pressure from everywhere, and I ultimately made the same choice. I wish more people understood that with a bit of inclusion and training, the less experienced actually want to learn to do better, perform better, explore better, etc. And even be more of what the more experienced wanted/expected out of its members in specific organizations.

Give it some time, and consider coming back, with a character you feel you can more blend into the more social/exploring aspects with the game with. There are quite a few of us that emphasize with your experience around.

I'd say there's a reason the other forums and those logs and responses aren't part of this official site. While they can be fun at times, if you start having personal reactions to someone's thoughts on some imaginary character, in an imaginary world, that's probably the site you need to avoid for a while longer, even if you do come try again.

Your friendly neighborhood Pook

Edoras · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:10 am

Joining any tribunal marks you as a PvP target. You should avoid that if you don't want to be hunted in-game. SK is an IC world that has IC consequences.

Mythrilshotgun · **Joined:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm **Posts:** 149

Yup! I learned that lesson. Just also felt bad being a graybie that had no community. I tried both ways, not having fun in either sense. So... yeah. I might reroll, but I need time away.

archaicsmurf · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:05 am

I apologize for being a catalyst to deletion for one of these characters. I greatly enjoyed my interactions with Sanura and I never realized both were yours. If I did I would have treated Jano differently because I knew Sanura was someone still learning the game. I hope you come back.

There are communities to be found all over the game. I think if you went the opposite direction and rolled a lighty centaur bard, you may have had a better experience. There isn't the same size group or activity in the East right now. I think you knew that though. That dynamic will probably change in the near future, per usual. In the future there are tribunal and cabal options that are often on the outskirts of the PK scene (Talons, Druids, Harlies). Jano clearly had a connection with the Grand Druid from what I was able to observe. You could've also joined the MC and not the Legion to stay covert. Just don't wear a certain piece of EQ and no one has to know.

As a player I almost always have a grey-aura alternate character that I play when I need a break from diplomacy and pk aspects of the game, which can be exhausting.

I strongly encourage you to try the warlock class on your next. It's a very fun, versatile class that is highly sought for adventures and very capable solo. They are also the quickest class to level. A warlock druid could be leveled in 15-25 hours if done properly. Guides for warlocks can be found on this website and another site. I will help you accomplish this if you send me a message as I've done this a handful of times. I think a certain grand druid would also help if asked.

Algorab · **Joined:** Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:48 pm **Posts:** 314

archaicsmurf wrote:

You could've also joined the MC and not the Legion to stay covert. Just don't wear a certain piece of EQ and no one has to know.

Just to clarify this one point, you currently must be part of the Legion to join the MC.

Everything else is probably true.

Mythrilshotgun · **Joined:** Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm **Posts:** 149

I edited the OP a little, because I was being unfair. However, I wanted to say more, so...

I was being especially unfair to those who interacted with Sanura regularly, and attempted to make her feel welcome. I know I was not just a rune-battery to many, probably even most of you.

I was suffering under some misconceptions, and noone is obligated to escort my [REDACTED] anywhere. Playing on Sanura was plain overwhelming at time with the frequency of requests, but that's on me to communicate and express myself more clearly. It led to a lot of interactions feeling transaction-y, even if that was not the intent or desire.

In a move of extreme naievety, one of the hopes I had with Jano was that catering to a much smaller crowd, the Legion, would be a far slower and more managable change of pace. I'd get that "Hey, we want you to hang in the inn" for singing, without trying to enchant and tally up fades/resists/glows/brilliants all while six other people are talking and consecrating themselves. Knowing I could personally blow up someone's hard-won gear from inattentiveness was stressful. (I know, I shouldn't whine over something as simple as enchanting.)

I had some lovely RP with people on Sanura, and I deeply regret blowing up the hours of investment other people had with her. I'm told in private that there was a service held, and that's genuinely touching.

And on a last note: While the PK and such is the primary motivator for my departure, it hit at a moment where I, the player, goofed hard and got Sanura jailed for five days. While bored in jail, I browsed logs, and... yeah, the frustration hit big time. It's not on Krabr. Not on anyone but me. I could not seperate my OOC feelings and straight up rage-quit. It was not any one thing, but a bad confluence of events that killed the excitement I had for the game.

ladyjennbo · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:15 am

hey, i really hope you come back. i loved sanura.

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