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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:46 am 
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Weak? Weak because he couldn't see any other way out of his personal hell? Weak because he fought for years to beat this blackness in his soul? Weak because after years and years of fighting himself he couldn't fight any more? When every fun event in your life is fun while it happens, and 5 minutes later, it's like it never happened, the light swallowed up by the utter blackness in your soul.


That's very well put also.


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:50 am 
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Anyone at the ripe old age of twenty three who thinks that they have screwed up their life to the point where it isn't worth living is either weak or stupid or both.

Life is beautiful and wonderful and awesome and worth living. Anyone who thinks otherwise either needs therapy or a hard slap in the face.

The tragedy is that he didn't get help soon enough. :-?


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:51 am 
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Suicide is weak, no matter how you look at it.

Sure, it takes a lot of guts to kill yourself but it is -still- weak.


The point of the matter though is, yeah, people ARE weak, at times. It s up to those around them to make fun of them for that, or help them.


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:56 am 
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I remember over the years various interactions with OVT's characters. Ambitious, eager, always looking to do more and bring more to whatever he was throwing himself into. I never spoke to him directly OOC or outside of the game, but I remember a decent amount of time spent to letting him articulate is thoughts and ideas. Sometimes contraversial, or at least contrary to what some would have considered popular, I viewed him as a creative entity. I tried not to judge, and often just gave him a berth of space. He saw the world differently than most I think, and at the same time I think he had a difficult time seeing the world in a way most of see, and handle it. I read the majority of his posts on the forums. They too could be wild or outlandish, or at other times, it was easy to see the level of commitment and effort he made attempting to contribute to the game.

My heart is with those who knew him and cared for him on a personal level. I've read through the whole thread. I'm sure everyone who he was close to was there, and helped him the best they knew how. The hardest thing that Brady ever had to deal with is that he felt he could not help himself. To all those who knew him, know what happened was not your fault, and you should all take some degree of comfort in that. What happened is horrific, and unfortunate. To do as has been done is for someone to ultimately not give up on the world, but on themself. That's the real sacrifice and ultimately what he could not live with.

To me, I feel bitter toward people who can be so intentially cruel and condesending to others. If you don't like or care for someone, just don't bother with them. If they're acting weird/dark/messed up, the last thing that sort of person needs is to be told or shown in some way they deserve to be treated like crap. This is one valiant truth. Do unto others as you want done unto you... lest all good things come to such an end. Not just for that person, but all those who knew them.

God speed.


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So, when DO they get the right to decide their life is a screwup from beginning to end Fepel? 24? 25? 30? 40? 50?

Life is beautiful? Is it? Is it always? I bet it's really beautiful in Szechuan right now, or in Burma's river delta, where there's another storm headed their way...

Tell me what pills your shrink/dealer gave you Fepel, I want to know what they are, because they're obviously working.


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Pardon me but I got this annoying feeling when I saw some posts and decided to make this note.

This is not an afterlife of an SK character, nor the place to judge someone else's actions. Ending your own life is much more complicated than just "getting away", it involves serious complications and issues.

Anyway, most of the suicidal incidents come from different types of Depression, which is actually an illness; Not something you can deal with an aspirin.
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PS. For the little I've known OVT, his profile seems to fit with Erevan's point of view, at least to my eyes.

Ps 2. In such cases there is NOONE to blaim but the victim itself. Most of the times, the depressed person shields his problems from those close to him, making any attempt to diagnose or help almost impossible.
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Let us just bid a farewell to an established member of this community and allow everyone to mourn this loss in his own way.


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Suicide is ultimately an individual decision, regardless of how anyone feels about it.

I would really appreciate it if people would stop making posts implying that those who knew the man IRL should have done more to help him. That's an accusation they shouldn't have to deal with right now. I'm sure they've got enough guilt weighing them down already without stupid SKers adding fuel to the fire.

And please keep the flaming and tit-for-tat out of this thread. We've already had to clean it up once.


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:03 am 
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I just...I don't know what to say. Words cannot define how I feel. There is a crushing weight on my heart, acid in my throat, my stomach feels like it is in a blender. I hate that he did this to himself, that he did this to his friends and family, and that in essential there was nothing anyone could do to help...

Kemilla...was always my favorite. Always.

I feel ill.

You will be missed, I'll see you on the other side.


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I didn't ever interact with OVT except through the forums. I'm never happy to see someone commit suicide and I'm also sad to lose a long-time member of the community.

That said, I also hope that SK was not a contributor to his downward spiral. As much as I love this game and want people to enjoy playing it, I never want it to cause harm to the people who play it. Obviously, dumping all your time into the game does not guarantee suicide, but it has caused many people to fail out of school or lose a job.

As a community, I urge everyone to please monitor yourselves and others to make sure the game is not being used solely to escape a bad real life situation that might be made better if the problems were faced head-on. It's also useful to remember that behind every character in the game is a real player with real emotions. Even when you are striving to PK them, remember to treat them with the OOC respect that you yourself would want.

My condolences to OVT's family and friends.


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I don't know OVT from Adam and I never knew he was Revin. I often wondered what the player behind the forum ID of OVT was like. I was only talking to JvJ about him last week and how I always mixed them up... sorry I digress. I always wondered whether the teenage angst was partly just a front, because then he would often display a completely different side, for example:

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I blemished Camilla today.

It was basically because of a conversation with her where she stated that I should respect her and speak to her as such or I would find myself in trouble or some such.

I responded in kind and after a bit of this blemished her simply with the intention of showing her that I was infact the Voice of Evil, and that her quest to atonement was to kneel before The Puppeteer (me).

Sadly she had to leave the realms and I didn't really intend to leave her blemished, just wanted to spark some RPs.

So if Yotbol, Cordylle, or our Autocrat see her on... you know, work it out so she's not blemished anymore?

I really didn't intend on hurting her playing experience but enrichen it.


That was my only real interaction with the player outside of the game. I often thought of hitting him up on YIM, but liked that mystery behind some of the great characters he has had.

With regard to OVT and RL, it is a tragedy that he chose this option. It seems senseless at the moment - a friend of my wife lost her closest friend at the weeked... 24 and died of a heart attack (brought on by a virus). Some choose to end it, some don't. For those around them, the net effect is the same, a sad, sad loss.

I have my own personal opinions on things like this, but I don't think this is the place for it, this is a place to offer those who live on without OVT my thoughts and condolences.

RIP

Wortsenawl / Chris

ps OVT, in response to the quote I entered, you did enrich it.


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