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 Post subject: Willpower. Again.
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:32 am 
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SK Character: Cyndane - Talys
Okay, seriously, what is the problem?

Quote:

[HP:100%] [ME: 72%] [PE:100%]
> c sleep self
You start to concentrate.

You utter the words, 'grzzs'.
You feel very sleepy ..... zzzzzz.

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
> In your dreams, or what?

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
> rele
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo
o # Spell Casted On Concentration o
o===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===-===o
o 1 sleep Yourself moderate o
oOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOoOOOo

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
> rele 1
You wake and stand up.
You feel less tired.

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
> say What the [REDACTED].
You say 'What the [REDACTED].'

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
> res
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
> eq
You are using:
<worn on finger> an agate band (brand new)
<worn on finger> an agate band (brand new)
<worn around neck> a long ricinium of black velvet (superb)
<worn around neck> an eagle shaped fibulae (superb)
<worn as symbol> a tiny orb of green flame
<worn on body> a tight-fitting mesh vest composed of red silk (average)
<worn on head> a flowing black cowl embroidered with red (fair)
<worn on legs> a pair of tight-fitting mesh leggings composed of red silk (very good)
<worn on feet> a pair of thigh-high mesh boots composed of red silk (very good)
<worn on hands> a pair of fingerless gloves embroidered with red (superb)
<worn on arms> some black fishnet sleeves interwoven with red (very good)
<worn about body> the Moonlight Robes (brand new)
<worn about waist> a tight-fitting mesh belt composed of red silk (very good)
<worn around wrist> a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes (superb)
<worn around wrist> a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes (superb)
<right hand> a wand of spinning vortices
<left hand> a tattered papyrus with faded black runes

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
>
Ramasess raises an eyebrow.

[HP:100%] [ME: 69%] [PE:100%]
>
Your pulse slows to normal.
The comforts of the inn put you at ease.
You feel less protected.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
>
Ramasess stops resting, and clambers to her feet.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
> say I just put myself to sleep in one cast.
You say 'I just put myself to sleep in one cast.'

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
>
Ramasess starts to concentrate.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
> inf

Group: Ealuriel's Party
(11:F1) [------------] (12:F2) [a thick-mane] (13:F3) [------------]
(21:M1) [------------] (22:M2) [ Ealuriel] (23:M3) [------------]
(31:B1) [------------] (32:B2) [------------] (33:B3) [------------]
Characters Rank Pos In room Follow HP ME PE
Ealuriel Leader 22:M2 Yes No 100% 84% 100%
A thick-maned lion Member 12:F2 Yes Yes 34% 63% 100%

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
>
Ramasess utters the words, 'sleep'.
You feel very sleepy ..... zzzzzz.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
>
You wake and stand up.
You feel less tired.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
>
Ramasess throws back her head and cackles.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
> say That is ridiculous.
You say 'That is ridiculous.'

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
> rest
You sit down and rest your tired bones.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
> eq
You are using:
<worn on finger> an agate band (brand new)
<worn on finger> an agate band (brand new)
<worn around neck> a long ricinium of black velvet (superb)
<worn around neck> an eagle shaped fibulae (superb)
<worn as symbol> a tiny orb of green flame
<worn on body> a tight-fitting mesh vest composed of red silk (average)
<worn on head> a flowing black cowl embroidered with red (fair)
<worn on legs> a pair of tight-fitting mesh leggings composed of red silk (very good)
<worn on feet> a pair of thigh-high mesh boots composed of red silk (very good)
<worn on hands> a pair of fingerless gloves embroidered with red (superb)
<worn on arms> some black fishnet sleeves interwoven with red (very good)
<worn about body> the Moonlight Robes (brand new)
<worn about waist> a tight-fitting mesh belt composed of red silk (very good)
<worn around wrist> a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes (superb)
<worn around wrist> a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes (superb)
<right hand> a wand of spinning vortices
<left hand> a tattered papyrus with faded black runes

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE:100%]
>


Quote:

You utter the words, 'uoculoihuyl'.
This is a long ricinium of black velvet, a small suede treasure, weighing
approximately 1 lbs. It is of outstanding quality and is worth
approximately 275 silver. It bears an enchantment to greatly increase
willpower. It bears an enchantment to greatly increase magical protection.
It bears an enchantment to moderately increase willpower.

[HP:100%] [ME: 97%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

[HP:100%] [ME: 97%] [PE:100%]
>
You utter the words, 'uoculoihuyl'.
This is an eagle shaped fibulae, a small gold treasure, weighing
approximately 1 lbs. It is of outstanding quality and is worth
approximately 275 silver. It bears an enchantment to moderately increase
willpower. It bears an enchantment to moderately increase magical
protection. It bears an enchantment to moderately increase reflex. It
bears an enchantment to greatly increase willpower.


Twelve willpower just on those two pieces of eq.

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[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
> rem bang
You stop using a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes.

[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
> rem bang
You stop using a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes.

[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
>
Ramasess looks at you.

[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
> c id bang
You start to concentrate.

[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
> c id 2.bang
wear bang
wear bang

Ramasess says '*raspy* You were better with the red silk from up north.'


[HP:100%] [ME:100%] [PE:100%]
>
You utter the words, 'uoculoihuyl'.
This is a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes, a small
copper treasure, weighing approximately 1 lbs. It is of above average
quality and is worth approximately 150 silver. It bears an enchantment to
greatly increase willpower. It bears an enchantment to greatly increase
fortitude.

[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
> You start to concentrate.

>
You utter the words, 'uoculoihuyl'.
This is a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes, a small
copper treasure, weighing approximately 1 lbs. It is of above average
quality and is worth approximately 150 silver. It bears an enchantment to
greatly increase willpower. It bears an enchantment to greatly increase
fortitude.

[HP:100%] [ME: 98%] [PE:100%]
> It is a bit small for you.
You wear a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes around your left wrist.

[HP:100%] [ME: 98%] [PE:100%]
> It is a bit small for you.
You wear a thick bronze bangle engraved with musical neumes around your right wrist.


8 more on those two pieces.

Quote:
>
You utter the words, 'uoculoihuyl'.
This is a tight-fitting mesh belt composed of red silk, a small silk
armor, weighing approximately 1 lbs. Protection is inferior vs. Pierce,
inferior vs. Bash and inferior vs. Slash. It is of superior quality and
is worth approximately 200 silver. It bears an enchantment to greatly
increase willpower. It bears an enchantment to greatly increase magical
protection.

[HP:100%] [ME: 99%] [PE:100%]
> It is a bit small for you.
You wear a tight-fitting mesh belt composed of red silk about your waist.


4 more...

Okay 24 willpower, and that's just from 5 pieces of my equipment. I'm sure if I sat and C & P'd it all, I'd be at 30 plus. AND I HAD A BLESS SPELL.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:35 am 
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You can enchant the hell out of your gear, but there is never any guarantee that it will actually save you against anything. There is always the chance that a spell will land the first cast reguardless of what you have for enchants.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:36 am 
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Or do spells like that when casted on yourself ignore enchants?


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:45 am 
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Spells casted on yourself don't ignore enchants.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:47 am 
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Ramasess put me to sleep too. And has REPEATEDLY done it recently. And she has a whopping...5 art.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:54 am 
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Have you done it a bunch of times, and seen if you actually save against it at all? If you are not saving against it at all then this should be moved to the bug thread. If you have saved against it, then you're just getting really unlucky.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 11:59 am 
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There is a certain "cap" when it comes to willpower enchantments on a race that already has an innate bonus to it. That said, it won't matter if you have +25 or +250* on your equipment. Once the cap is hit, the enchantments won't add up anymore.

Also, people overestimate bless.

*These numbers are only used as an example.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:02 pm 
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Wait, what the [REDACTED]? So, a human with enchanted eq would be better off than a deep-elf with the same eq, because Dulrik's racial BONUSES are [REDACTED] [REDACTED]?


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:05 pm 
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I'm just telling you that the racial bonus won't matter if the cap is hit. The testing I've done tells me that the cap isn't very high. So, to sum it up, it won't be much of an advantage if you are a player who generally puts effort into enchanting.

Edit: Try polymorphing and see if you notice a significant difference.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2009 12:24 pm 
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Jurithiel wrote:
There is a certain "cap" when it comes to willpower enchantments on a race that already has an innate bonus to it. That said, it won't matter if you have +25 or +250* on your equipment. Once the cap is hit, the enchantments won't add up anymore.

Also, people overestimate bless.

*These numbers are only used as an example.


I like my example about sunblock better.

Also, you suck.


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