well thought out.
I approve this change!
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| Author: | Malhavoc [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cleave Weapon Changes |
It's a skill any hellion knows, and most desire to master quickly. But there is a problem I've seen and would like changed. [Skills help] cleave Syntax: cleave <victim> Cleave is one of the hellions' strongest attacks. As an initial attack, it can offer a decisive advantage in battle, as it allows for a body part to be severed in a single blow. Much to some people's amazement, this does occasionally mean that someone's head will roll. Cleave weapons: scimitar, machete, longsword, broadsword, katana, cutlass, bastard sword, greatsword, claymore, flamberge, no-dachi, pigsticker, falchion, khopesh, landsknecht, khukri, battle axe, double-bladed axe, great axe, halberd, bill, glaive, and naginata. Pigstickers are used to backstab and by rogues all over, mostly for one reason, they are pointy and hurt. A pic of a "pig sticker". Now you can claim that they are long enough on occasion to be a cleaving weapon, but take into consideration that the term stick means to jab, and that pig sticker is a known alias for bayonet, which of course is not used in a slashing motion. Now I do propose an addition for cleave. Pole-axe. I don't know why this was left out. Again pictoral proof. I mostly want to see the add because there is a fair usage for pole-axes in game and it makes sense as the weapon closely resembles bills, halberts, and glaives. |
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| Author: | Lakir [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:39 am ] |
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A well thought out post with evidence to back up the claims?...I thought the day would never come. |
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| Author: | Gremlin24 [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:52 am ] |
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I completely agree with your assessment, but that second picture is more of a halberd. I'm not sure why halberd and poleaxes were really separated other than a pole axe wouldn't necessarily have the spear tip with it and can possibly have a double blade. It's certainly not a huge deal, but I thought I would share. Examples of other pole axes: http://www.tribalmania.com/poleaxe4.jpg http://www.thebladeshop.com/ProductImag ... l/89PA.jpg |
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| Author: | Adroan [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:09 am ] |
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well thought out. I approve this change!
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| Author: | Malhavoc [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:37 am ] |
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Gremlin24 wrote: I completely agree with your assessment, but that second picture is more of a halberd. I'm not sure why halberd and poleaxes were really separated other than a pole axe wouldn't necessarily have the spear tip with it and can possibly have a double blade. It's certainly not a huge deal, but I thought I would share.
Examples of other pole axes: http://www.tribalmania.com/poleaxe4.jpg http://www.thebladeshop.com/ProductImag ... l/89PA.jpg Wikipedia described the poleaxe in several ways. One of which was with a full dagger extending the reach of the axe blade. My guess is to use it like a pike. I think honestly the difference is there but negligible because there were so many types forged over the years that designs may have crossed. |
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| Author: | Lakir [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:51 am ] |
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None of those pictures look as cool as I imagine the weapons in the game look. |
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| Author: | Enishi [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:35 pm ] |
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Wait, you can actually cleave with pigstickers? Is that a joke? And not poleaxes? Can't really argue with this post |
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| Author: | Teh_Peso [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:57 pm ] |
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You can't actually, its on the list, but it says you need a cleaving type weapon |
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| Author: | Dulrik [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:51 pm ] |
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It does seem to be fairly common-sensical. Change made and active. |
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| Author: | Gilgon [ Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:14 pm ] |
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I am confused as to why important PK-related changes are made without thinking about the consequences of these changes. As much as realism might be important in certain ways, keep in mind that pole-axes are now the highest damage ranged cleaving subtype in the game due to your recent change. You just increased the opening damage of a class significantly - maybe that was your intention, but it is certainly something to consider before making changes, despite them being 'common-sensical'. Do hellions need a boost in cleave damage? |
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