Shattered Kingdoms

Should be leadership. Like it is for every tribunal. They still need to operate as a tribunal when their relic is swiped. So their default skill should be leadership, not the other skill (which ironically, is probably more helpful in regretting the relic itself).

Being unable to defend cities and wage war simply because a relic is missing is just silly. Besides, leadership isn't legion commander anymore, so it's not unique. It only makes sense they'd keep the non-unique one and lose their unique ones that the Emperor gives them.

lol

Yes. Please.

Cabal powers stripped, Tribunal skills in tact.

Go.

I don't mind either way, but I do admit keeping leadership makes more sense.

sleeper

Makes sense.

Ditto

I am tempted to say no. Since the MC would lose their will to keep their cabal identity. Since they can lose their relic and act as a completely functunal tribunal. They may just say to hell with a relic and not bother recovering it. Right now any cabal loses their relic, they become pretty worthless. If the MC gets to keep leadership, its a very large perk compared to the single skills the other cabals keep when their relic is gone.

You forget, they still have to act as a nation. So even if they ignore the fact they are a cabal all together (which means no use of cabal skills), they still are warring with other nations as well as factions.

They are a cabunal and as such must be able to fight both. Swiping their relic leaves the Empire unable to defend itself on the home turf, which no other nation has to deal with.

However, losing all the combat advantages being in MC brings for the PCs that are non-tribunal derived will sting a large bit especially when going up against other cabals.

I would think it makes sense losing leadership, tbh. Considering they lost the relic, aka the emperor's favor who in turn denies them access to his armies until they reclaim it.

Now I've heard something about the emperor being murdered and reassumed in position by the previous Knightlord, so my point may be moot ICly.

Since when do people absolutely need to rely on their cabal skills or tribunal NPCs to win?