Weapon availability discussion

B00ts · **Posted:** Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:55 pm

Battle whips should be added.

Goldlantern · **Posted:** Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:55 pm

Elemental orbs, glaive, and bill can be removed - DEFINITELY wakizashi can be removed. I'd also remove claymores, flamberges, flails, throwing axe, and shuriken.

Edit: Salak - Yes, the steel one is from Teron.

Gremlin24 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:01 pm

Claymores, flamberges, and flails I could see being removed, but throwing axes and shuriken?

I can get a decent number of throwing axes, sure. None of them are of any decent quality, though. And considering these are throwing weapons, you need a ton of them around. It's just MHO.

Goldlantern · **Posted:** Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:24 pm

Gremlin, there are SEVERAL types of shuriken.

Tanso steel varieties - 2
Mithril varieties - 1
Cold iron varieties - 1

I might reconsider my recommendation on the axes, but only if the quantity goes down while the quality goes up.

Gremlin24 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:15 pm

My problem with that logic is that there is a larger need for multiples in these items due to the way throw acts. Sure, you can use these in melee, but I wouldn't recommend that. So, unless these items or the throw "skill" is changed, we could use a great many of these weapons.

*shrugs*

Dark-Avenger · **Posted:** Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:02 am

There are even energy shuriken.

On orbs now, there are more than enough elemental orbs(but should remain imo, they are the worse orbs of all), there are enough divine orbs and we certainly need more arcane orbs. As far as I know only 1 unique item is arcane orbs.

On claymores now, I could see one high material quality added someplace that you can reach it easier than the only adamantite one that I know of.

The battlewhips are enough also, of all durabilities.

Perhaps add a water/energy/adamantite poleaxe, now that we have new dwarves.

Also we certainly need one energy/adamantite pigsticker, but not more.

All spears and polearms listed are fine by me and bows shouldn't be on the list since durability doesn't really matter and there are enough of each subtype.

Adroan · **Posted:** Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:42 am

Do we already have magic wards and prehaps a ward mirror and such, and adding some orbs would be awsome!! I think we should get a new slot called floating nearby and we can get stuff like a mihtril dragon that will add a few things, and stuff like fire orbs ice orbs and what not... to add resistance to elements...

Syndal · **Posted:** Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:37 am

Kamas need to be removed from that list.

Battlewhips there are plenty if your character doesn't mind using an evil object. There's a water and energy variation which are both zappy(evil) and then the ones from Chyz which aren't zappy but are evil IMO. And I think there's a sacred one for a lightie religion? And one from somewhere else which I think is energy. I've never seen a mithril or adamantite battlewhip. Tanso ones are easy to get.

Achernar · **Posted:** Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:48 am

Code:

Worn weapons: 
knuckles          spiked knuckles 
Swords:    
scimitar          wakizashi         kris              machete            
cutlass           greatsword        claymore          flamberge 
no-dachi          pigsticker        falchion          khopesh 
Daggers: 
skinning knife    tanto             hunting knife     push knife        
throwing dagger   sai               curved dagger     straight dagger    
khukri 
Maces: 
spiked club       flanged mace      spiked mace       forge hammer 
spiked warhammer  flanged pole-mace spiked pole-mace 
Flails: 
ball and chain    morningstar       nunchaku 
Axes: 
hatchet           throwing axe      battle axe        double-bladed axe 
great axe         pole-axe          
Whips: 
riding crop       bullwhip          spiked chain      
Staffs: 
cane              jo staff          bo staff          blade staff 
ajatang            
Spears: 
throwing spear    pitchfork         ahlspiess          
Polearms: 
bill              glaive            bec de corbin      
Bows: 
shortbow          compound bow      hunting bow       archery bow        
Siegecraft: 
catapult          ballista          
Exotic: 
sickle            arcane orbs        divine orbs      kusari-gama
bandalore         bolo

Removed several items. Some are listed because they do not have a higher end material version. Some bows only have a few versions, they may not be important for durability, but there should be plenty available of each type. Longbows, for instance, have been removed from this list. Removed elemental orbs. Removed flails. Removed shuriken.

nothingxs · **Posted:** Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:23 pm

The limits on throwing knives, throwing spears and shuriken need to be seriously revised, considering how throwing weapons work.

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