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Do you think it a good idea to prevent people from recalling/quitting for a time after being rez'd?
Yes, it's the fools fault for having died anyway? 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
No, that's a bit harsh. People shouldnt have to stick around if they don't want to. 62%  62%  [ 21 ]
I don't much care... 15%  15%  [ 5 ]
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Jardek, have you ever played this from the priest's side?.

The summon spell is not going to help much if you're in Menegroth and someone just recalled to Taslamar, or the reverse. Even naked PCs have protections NPCs don't.

Priests don't normally resurrect while grouped and prepared for battle. Is it possible to eventually chase someone down, with the help of allies? Sure. But it's much, much easier to say to yourself, "I don't recognize that name. A rez isn't worth the potential hassle."

Of course, if you don't see that as a problem, then there's no need for a change. And it's true there are a lot of generous priests out there.


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Jardek, have you ever played this from the priest's side?.

The summon spell is not going to help much if you're in Menegroth and someone just recalled to Taslamar, or the reverse. Even naked PCs have protections NPCs don't.

Priests don't normally resurrect while grouped and prepared for battle. Is it possible to eventually chase someone down, with the help of allies? Sure. But it's much, much easier to say to yourself, "I don't recognize that name. A rez isn't worth the potential hassle."

Of course, if you don't see that as a problem, then there's no need for a change. And it's true there are a lot of generous priests out there.


Thus makes the value of resurrection higher and gives more power to the priests because it is harder to obtain one. Death is treated too tritely in my opinion anyways.


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I would have to agree any priest high enough level to rez has to have friends in high places so sending a tell to someone to deal with a problem shouldn't be all that hard.

Someone rez/recalls, just tell one of your GM friends and they'll more than likely offer to take your god's blessings back from the offender.

I detest rez/recall tactics in general, but there have been times it seemed appropriate. Such as when the rezzee finds himself surrounded by enemies who want him dead again immediately.


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I didn't vote because of the lack of a "TERRIBLE IDEA!!!" option.

To me, it looks like you're wanting a coded crutch to make up for your IC failings to use the ressurrect spell wisely. Awful idea.

The mechanics of the game should promote flexibility, not restrict it. Failing to hang around after a resurrection long enough to thank the priest is a roleplay issue, not a mechanics issue.

And note, I didn't suggest it was bad roleplay either. There's every chance not wanting to hang around is a perfectly valid IC response to the situation they find themselves in.


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All I hear is people whining that they don't want to pay a bit for getting a free/cheaper ride to life than reincarnation, and being too afraid to die again immediately that they'd do recall to avoid a chance at the RP because ALL they think is that they're going to immediately get PK'd again. This wouldn't just take affect on the 'opposite auras.' It would be affecting everyone, myself included. I can't even say this is about fearing getting your gear junked. That takes a fraction of a second after combat, or after they feel your ghost has gone to the afterlife. It often takes a priest a tick or two to gain the mana to return you and/or get to a place they wish to to resurrect you.

This whole situation is starting to make me feel jaded, and I've not even been playing that long. I'm also not seeing much sense in raising an army to fight someone I'd just as soon pity and not aid again. I do follow up RP to explain their pissant actions. There are non-priests around me who have taken note lately and have gone off on sprees. But the experience leaves me feeling empty and used as a _player_, not just as a character.

I believe the ratio of priests/characters mirrors the rather 'negative' appearance of the poll. I think most people who have/had played priests, or those who have witnessed this situation understand the nature of this idea more than anyone else.


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Although I was 100% for the idea, I am swaying toward the against now, largely because at the moment, though it is abused slightly, there are no RP restrictions. As I said previously, running could easily form part of a valid RP. However, being forced to stick around limits people from RPing trick and run tactics.

Currently, I pretty much always RP exhaustion after being rez'd as I think it would be a traumatic experience. However, I don't think anyone can really hide behind the argument of "dont stop us from fleeing the room cos if we are of opposite alignment then the priest'll likely kill me."

Really, a lightie is not likely to ask (knowingly) a Darkie for a rez and if they are stupid enough to do it then yes, death is probably going to swiftly follow...

However, if a darkie tricks a lightie into a rez then I think if the Light Priest/ess just kills them than that is equally bad RP. Why? Well, for starters the lord (non gender specific useage) has answered their prayers and it is therefore their lords will to grant life... it is therefore not so easy for the Priest/ess to decide to take it away (IMO) and also, the lighties are more likely to stay their sword and take the opportunity to guide (aren't they?)


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Amadeo wrote:
I believe the ratio of priests/characters mirrors the rather 'negative' appearance of the poll. I think most people who have/had played priests, or those who have witnessed this situation understand the nature of this idea more than anyone else.



Well, this looks like someone who believes he is the holy patron of RP, coming to save the world of anti-RP sinners with his brilliant idea, but the world won't listen... *sigh*

Friendly advice: Get off your high-horse, others not agreeing with it for flexibility reasons doesn't mean they do not appreciate RP. On the contrary, RP should be performed because it is enjoyed, not forced onto somone. :wink:


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Any priest who needs help killing a lone naked person fresh out the river is pathetic. C harm target. Thats all it takes. You don't need any help.


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Amadeo wrote:
I believe the ratio of priests/characters mirrors the rather 'negative' appearance of the poll. I think most people who have/had played priests, or those who have witnessed this situation understand the nature of this idea more than anyone else.


Slow down a bit there. Several of the respondants who have responded negatively have already stated here or elsewhere they've run priests. Myself included.

You think I haven't experienced rez/recall when I ran Denon and Galida? I have and didn't like it then. Still don't like it. But all I had to do was tell my IC friends about said char and they went out and dealt with it. More than likely a non-priest will want to do the dirty work for a priest just to stay in good with that priest. Non-priests always like knowing there's a priest around that likes them just in case something goes wrong.


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Amadeo wrote:
I believe the ratio of priests/characters mirrors the rather 'negative' appearance of the poll. I think most people who have/had played priests, or those who have witnessed this situation understand the nature of this idea more than anyone else.


Yeah, I play a priest right now and I'm still against this idea. It has good intentions, but... bleh. Priests need to deal with it ICly.

Although I will say it makes some sense that one's pulse may race after being resurrected. I still don't like the idea though.


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