Shattered Kingdoms

Nah. They're totally end-game unbeatable. It's like playing a boss NPC from the dreamscape.

What are you talking about? You would backstab him. This has nothing to do with circle.

And the odds of landing a backstab against an ethereal sorcerer with mirror images is actually better than I thought.

P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A and B)

So it would be:

1/6 + 1/5 - (1/6 * 1/5) = 1/3

Approximately a 33% chance to gank him as long as you are properly buffed with a highly enchanted two-handed pigsticker or straight dagger - assuming my math is right. Been a long time since I have done probabilities.

You can't backstab someone with a racing pulse, and dispel is an aggressive spell.

You don't attempt to backstab him when he has a racing pulse. He won't always have a racing pulse.

Seems quite obvious. You guys are trying too hard to make it seem like etherealform is OP. Frankly, there is no way I would sit ethereal all the time if a rogue had a 1/3 shot of outright killing me anytime I didn't have a racing pulse.

Being a griffon in this situation actually hurts his chance to survive. He would be better off as a magic protection race, since with stone skin no rogue could ever kill him unless they landed BOTH backstabs. The odds of that is quite low:

Probability of compound, dependent events:

P(A and B) = P(A) · P(B|A)

1/6 * 1/6 = 1/36

So, yeah, less than a 3% chance to gank him if he polymorphs into a halfling/sprite and uses stone skin and mirror image.

No way a rogue without buffs 1 shots a human sorc, especially not a fist one that probably has max CON and HP, and a great HP piece of jewelry.

Why would you try to kill him without buffs?

I was gonna say...

That's like saying, "There's no way a bard without songs or chords, scrolls, or a weapon in-hand could kill a merc."

I'm just wondering exactly how your rogue is going to sneak up on a guy without him noticing, buff up and go ethereal without him noticing, and then still not kill him because he has wimpy 50 set.

Then again, Maelgrim went into fights all the time without buffing up, so I suppose that's something.

I'm not saying that Fist human MR sorc is invincible. I'm just saying that if you act like anything short of an ether wire + swashie or true seeing potion is going to ever kill him, you're nuts.

You know chords aren't affected by MI, right? Just wondering.

A chording bard is going to get totally murdered by a Fist sorc 1v1. The sorc even has free fatigueless GM giant strength and haste. Unless F Minor was buffed it is really unreliable for keeping people prone.