Shattered Kingdoms

..All armor in the game is available to everyone.

The point is that there's too much of it, and great MP heavy armor is ++great, wtf are you smoking.

It's ridiculous that everyone expects (and is given, by you) the ability to be fully prepped again immediately after dying.

Tell me.

What advantage does a barb in fully enchanted eq have 1vs1 against a barb in the dozens of great mp diamond suits available?

I stopped reading at page four. It's almost like the OP was trying to cram in as much erroneous information into a single post as humanly possible. And jerin threw his hat in! Haha

Until the rules change to allow the players to have guns, it is not the greatest game ever.

Let me explain more clearly since WW is still being spiteful and defensive.

The drive to the north campus gave me great clarity, and so I'll try to make this easy to follow:

Let's go back to the number analogy. Every class should be at a total of 15 balance rating. This can be achieved by any number of concoctions of ratios:

Mercs barbs: 10 combat effectiveness, 2 armor, 2 enchants, 1 castable by PC buffs.
Necros: 0 combat effectiveness, 12 supplemental class-specific buffs/magic, 0 armor, 2 enchants, 1 castable by PC buffs.
Paladins hellions: 4 combat effectiveness, 6 supplemental class-specific buffs, 2 armor, 2 enchants, 1 castable by PC buffs.

Arbitrary numbers, but the point gets across. There are a total of X points that players can control, and X that are dedicated to the class specifically.

Here is the plain fact: you cannot give clergy knights prot twice, you cannot give sorcs 2 mirror images or ethereal forms, you can't give shamans two spirit auras. When these spells are available to other classes, you are stealing the capacity offered from that class and giving it to another. That means that some classes, no matter how prepped as it stands now, can never match others. It's pure imbalance, in the worst way. It means some classes have 18 and some are stuck at 15 (arbitrary numbers, again, just used to provide context). All classes should have an equivalent peak - this peak should not be spoon fed, there should be effort required, they should not be gotten to in the same ways, but there should be equivalent peaks and an equivalent gap of player-controlled variables that permits players to still remain tiered in power.

Now, WW, are you going to obtusely argue that I want there to be nothing adjustable by players, or are you going to untwist your knickers and see where I'm coming from?

I say we fix this problem before we start gouging out the tiers provided by the readily available armor.

canned enchant changes response here

Jerin.

Seriously.

How does there being 3 items in the game that cast MI..make sorcerors weaker?

I can offer testimony to my MI not helping my hellion be able to 1vs1 Dwilen.

And Sargas, making enchant EASIER is not exactly helping in the case of ++great armor being ridiculously easy to get.

Read faster. It doesn't diminish another class, it just gives yours a higher capacity. Now, because your class may also be imbalanced and that higher capacity doesn't bring you to par with another class doesn't change the approach I make.

See also: scrolls. Dulrik has said multiple times he's of the mind that class specific spells shouldn't be able to be shared, and I agree.

Okay. And with the current system, a prepped opponent is also going to have items to improve their efficacy.

What is this, socialist game land.

Okay, so now all the staves/wands of MI/acid blast/yadayadayada need to be removed too?

Man, at this rate, we really will wind up with no items.

It takes one of their advantages away, and gives it to someone else.

Mirror image really does make the sorcerer class playable. If you took that one spell away from them, they'd be garbage.

There seriously needs to be stricter controls on spells like mirror image, and etherealform.

Acidflower petals, and acid lizard tongues that's all I'm going to say.

I do agree that all that rose gear in Exile should be like...tanso or something