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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:24 am 
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That shows a remarkable lack of creativity on their part.


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instant_karma wrote:
The forum rules forbid me from responding appropriately, but I will say this: For the first time I have realised that the average intelligence on these forums might actually be less than that of Java's forums. Which is saying a very great deal.

As for the Adepts, I would say just let things unfold as they will. Something will happen, or it will not. C'est la vie.


The usual knocks on someone's intelligence are really getting over-used, instant-karma. If you really, really have a creative and/or angry post in mind, please fire away. You know how to PM, right? I don't mind straightening you out, but I'm going to let you tell me exactly what you think first. It appears every time I say something I confuse the snot out of someone, and I'd like to curb that trend if I could.

As for what you said about the Adepts, I think most people would agree that you're spot on.


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As for the Adepts, I would say just let things unfold as they will. Something will happen, or it will not. C'est la vie.


I've tried this approach numerous times, but the exact same two people just can't leave it alone until they are handed exactly what they want in a very straightforward and not at all time-consuming manner, apparently!

PROTIP: If anything. this strategy is backfiring.


Maybe the RPs should be extended past these two people to that things can get rolling? I mean . . . like the Orb RP got extended to include the jackass that disbanded the Adepts in the first place because the people that should have done it weren't online when it was "go time"?


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I think that they are the most vocal people who express their wish for the Adepts. I'm guessing is the logic is if they drown out everything else we'll be forced to oblige the command. I'm afraid there are constraints which are just a fact of life. Lets all be patient and see what is indeed in the works. I swear if their whining stops the actual progression of what is to be, because they have to have what was....I'll actually be angry. Yes, we all really want the villains back in the game. No, I don't really think its the call of any player or IMM at the moment. Its a scheme which is larger than any one or two or even three persons. It is a team effort.


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I think that they are the most vocal people who express their wish for the Adepts. I'm guessing is the logic is if they drown out everything else we'll be forced to oblige the command. I'm afraid there are constraints which are just a fact of life. Lets all be patient and see what is indeed in the works. I swear if their whining stops the actual progression of what is to be, because they have to have what was....I'll actually be angry. Yes, we all really want the villains back in the game. No, I don't really think its the call of any player or IMM at the moment. Its a scheme which is larger than any one or two or even three persons. It is a team effort.


Is this the third or fourth time the Adepts have been disbanded and/or shut down? From personal experience, I know of at least two other occasions, which each lasted six months to a year. In both those instances, the roleplay required to reform the cabal was unnecessarily complicated and secretive.

It reflects poorly on the IMM staff that a cabal is allowed to be shut down for such a prolonged period of time because of the decisions and roleplay of a few individuals. A couple months is understandable while plot lines develop and new leadership is established, but an entire year is unreasonable and should be corrected ASAP.

Other cabals have been temporarily disbanded, such as the Hammer and Harlequins, but never as frequently or for such long stretches of time as the Adepts. This phenomenon is particular to the Adepts for whatever reason.

No, I don't have a character attempting to revive the Adepts. And, no, I don't have a character that wants to join the cabal. As a former leader of the Adepts, I just find it absurd the same mistakes are repeated by both the players and IMM staff in regards to this cabal.


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I mean . . . like the Orb RP got extended to include the jackass that disbanded the Adepts in the first place because the people that should have done it weren't online when it was "go time"?


Get over yourself, Thranetta, and stop trolling Bug Discussion while you're at it.

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but an entire year is unreasonable and should be corrected ASAP


The group simply doesn't exist anymore. Precious few parties retain any of the knowledge upon which it was founded. Those who could have prevented this process by rebelling against Vorak's 'decision,' or participated in a revival of the group shortly thereafter, demonstrated no interest in doing so. Thus, it's a dead issue. The fact that interest in the cabal is 'back' doesn't undo the IC effects of a half-century of general apathy.


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Thuban wrote:
ilkaisha wrote:
I mean . . . like the Orb RP got extended to include the jackass that disbanded the Adepts in the first place because the people that should have done it weren't online when it was "go time"?


Get over yourself, Thranetta, and stop trolling Bug Discussion while you're at it.

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but an entire year is unreasonable and should be corrected ASAP


The group simply doesn't exist anymore. Precious few parties retain any of the knowledge upon which it was founded. Those who could have prevented this process by rebelling against Vorak's 'decision,' or participated in a revival of the group shortly thereafter, demonstrated no interest in doing so. Thus, it's a dead issue. The fact that interest in the cabal is 'back' doesn't undo the IC effects of a half-century of general apathy.


I'm not really concerned with or referring to IC events. Perhaps my first post wasn't clear on that. I'm talking about the impact to game play (i.e. “playability and fun of the game”) when the IMM staff allows a cabal to be disbanded for an entire year. Not only does that FUBAR the balance between good and evil, it doesn't do anything to promote the game to new players.

New players to Shattered Kingdoms that make necromancers or evil sorcerers/warlocks aren't really going to care that IC events have kept a cabal that is designed for their character type from being an available option. Yes, some of them might take the initiative and attempt to revive the cabal, but the majority will view it as an obstacle to fun game play and pick another cabal like Harlequins/Midnight or simply move on to another MUD.

Each time the cabal has been disbanded, it has occurred because of events initiated by the player base. That being said, the IMM staff should not allow the cabal to remain dormant for such long periods of time. At some point, the value of RP and game play collide, and given the shrinking number of players, game play should win out. I'm not advocating the cabal be given to the first player that asks for it, but it should not take a year or more to establish new leadership.


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Thuban wrote:
ilkaisha wrote:
I mean . . . like the Orb RP got extended to include the jackass that disbanded the Adepts in the first place because the people that should have done it weren't online when it was "go time"?


Get over yourself, Thranetta, and stop trolling Bug Discussion while you're at it.

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but an entire year is unreasonable and should be corrected ASAP


The group simply doesn't exist anymore. Precious few parties retain any of the knowledge upon which it was founded. Those who could have prevented this process by rebelling against Vorak's 'decision,' or participated in a revival of the group shortly thereafter, demonstrated no interest in doing so. Thus, it's a dead issue. The fact that interest in the cabal is 'back' doesn't undo the IC effects of a half-century of general apathy.


ROFL, or maybe you should drop the insults out of a post that's "warning" someone about trolling. Maybe you should meet my friend Kettle, he's black too.

In other news, yes the Adepts being disbanded this long is idiotic. That "lost knowledge" would in RP terms be held by the dark gods any way, and it would be in their best interests to have minions doing their work in Pyrathia, and choosing someone to infuse with that knowledge, or give a Human Sacrifice 101 course.

Then again, if this time is being used to update some of the skill set of the Adepts, great, but you should at least bring some Adepts in with No Skills/Spells to help re-establish the group internally to itself.


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Lol, I was totally just bored and trying to post a funny :cry:


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"Those who could have prevented this process by rebelling against Vorak's 'decision,' or participated in a revival of the group shortly thereafter, demonstrated no interest in doing so."

Not entirely true, but in hindsight I'll concede that more could've been done.


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