Shattered Kingdoms

Banishment is a price for being at war with the nation. If your not aggressive against the nation likely the one banish isnt going to be target at you. There are twink ways around the banish code I have seen some of them used. Having see these ways I have thought of other ways to do things like only making a single member of a group banished. After a week of real life close to a year ICly I think it reasonable that the tribunal should be able to banish at least one other person in such a group via Imms, there would have to be repeated actions against the nation.

Personally Id love to completely rework the law code myself but I understand how massive a task like that would be.

Also NPCs being aggro against factions you are at war with doesnt work as stated by Phiezel. Would make Harlequins useless.

Obviously, they would be an exception. I was talking about tribs. There is nothing secret about being in a trib.

The idea of an apprentice ending up against aggro law NPCs because of tribunal diplomacy is a bad one. Ive seen members of factions become very close with other actions to get information. Having NPCs going aggro gives away IC information in an OOC way. This is the reason you would have to run it via an Imm before you got them banished to prove you have reason to banish them more than suspicion.

If you are an apprentice in a trib. You most likely got in due to OOC connections. You shouldn't even be accepted til much later. At least vet, I think is the target lvl. Banishing random people is not right. Yeah, you have the balance of running it by an IMM first. All that will happen is that once it is initiated, IMM's will be swamped with banishment requests. Also, when you get attacked by a NPC it can be put on banishment mode such that person doesn't die. Also, that person shouldn't be running around in a town for which they are at war with!

[edit] Too tired . . .I meant to say that I understand what you are saying but it will just end up eating up the IMM's time trying to sort out the bizillion banishment requests.

If you are at war with another nation, you should not be walking through their town as if nothing is going on! You are at war with them. Not having a verbal tiff. Also, if the law NPCs handled the situation just like they do with normal banishment. All that will happen they will get stunned and then tped somewhere. Also, if a trib is recruiting apprentice lvl pc's into the trib. They deserve to get ganked. Tribs or cabals should not be recruiting that early.

Nothing wrong with recruiting that young, what you are saying is that due to OOC reasons one shouldn't be in said cabal cause of their level, Wrong buddy! If the character has good enough RP they should be accepted into any faction they want. So as long as they are worthy of it. To turn one down cause of level should get you punished/stripped of your leadership flag.

QFT. May I add, it is probably polite to warn low level characters of the danger they face, but it is not appropriate to deny them if their RP is sound.

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I'm all for low level inductions. D started cracking down on it when I was leading the MC, and while at first I did not like it I learned to love it.

Let RP guide the way. If they mess up later, that's what tarnish/uninduct is for.

I have no problem inducting lower level characters in the trib or letting them help the city if we're at war or whatever. Just because a character is low level doesn't mean they aren't worth rping with or involving in the game politics..ect. Even if they are nooblets they have to learn somehow. OOCness has nothing to do with it, it's more like I want to see more people involved in rp/pk than spending hours alone coin farming or grinding levels because they aren't "high" enough level to play with the big dogs.

and as I recall Elspeth and Ace got into the harlies as like...novice level? And that was without oocness

Nothing gets you into the action of SK quicker than being in a tribunal. I also think its the beginning for most newbies because declaring your allegiance is so much easier than tracking down a cabal member or leader and not offending them by being too overt. Tribunals are still not equal to cabals in popularity, even with their recent buffing. They're gaining ground, but currently in the three kingdoms with cabal and tribunal, the cabal is still larger than the tribunal.

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I don't know about Elspeth but Ace didn't get in the harlies until he was a vet.