Shattered Kingdoms

Then you know nothing of Hammer/Peacekeeper history.

Think of the Hammer as the King/Queen's black ops force. They go around the world spreading Taslamaran influence. You could argue that this means that the Hammer should have little say over what happens in their mother country, however I would disagree.

It's not one way or the other, to expound on my previous example - the Hammer provides quite a bit to Exile in the way of military and financial support. If the Hammer were to remove itself from Taslamar, the country would crumble. They are very very related organizations, one is set on defending domestic territory while the other is set on expanding Taslamaran influence.

Go find out more about Hammer/Peacekeeper history. They even stopped being allies for a while. Gremlin is right. If they are meant to be together they should be merged. If not, they need to stand on their own.

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I was one of the people that once broke ties with the Peacekeepers - I even withdrew Hammer support from Taslamar. Shop keepers, trainers, friendly NPCs and guards were all removed from the cities. It was a short lived RP, but still they are not as separate as you might think. Have you ever seen Everclear an undefended city? I have.

All I am saying is that if one is just suppose to be an extension of the other. Then they need to merge. They are no longer acting like separate entities with their own goals. For balance reasons, they should merge.

Great idea, now convince Dulrik to do it. The Midnight Council was not seperated because of how the players role played. There was little chance of re-merging the Hammer and Peacekeepers when I was playing.

The Council of Necromancers and Adepts of the Blood Path have had a few wars even in my four years of playing. Most if not all of this was due to the sentiment that cabals > tribunals and that they should basically be granted every power a tribunal has through ordering some tribunal lackey to do it. I agree that it makes sense for the counterparts to work together, but that should not imply that cabals are the real rulers of the country. They are a special interest group that should their own motives.

I'd almost love to see the Adepts try and claim ownership of the North again, especially after tribunals have been tweaked to be able to back up their threats. Tribunals are not overpowered. A few NPCs might be a bit too beefy, but there are huge drawbacks to trying to use them, and that usually means the tribunal is balance (read nerfed) in other areas.

The fact that there is a thread about this means that tribunals are actually on par with what they should be. I'll admit some things need tweaking, and I'm fully willing to work with the IMMs to get that done, but any straight out nerf would only make tribunals the little red-headed step-brother of cabals again.

Fist and Talon need to be remerged.

So should Keepers and Hammer.

Why? No country should have a separate tribunal if the trib and cabal can't war ICly.

That's fact, jack.