Shattered Kingdoms

How do I steal stuff from people who arent logged in?

That's a no-go.

I think you are confused with the message that you get when you log on, I can't remember quite what it says but it's when you have lost an item because it is too high a level for you.

THats [REDACTED] someone stole all my stuff while I was gone and now I want to know how to steal from other people and none of you will tell me.

Did you recieve a message saying you had been set upon by thieves while you slept?
If so, then that is a system message indicating equipment was taken from you when you logged in because it's level value was greater then your character is capable of retaining.

What he said. If the equipment is higher in level than you are, the game takes it back and that message pops up. And no, you can't get it back unless you go to the place it originally comes from and get it again.

[REDACTED]! This game SUCKS and I'm going to quit and vote for the other muds!

Hmmm . . .Get over it. It is only stuff. If you are leaving though, good luck at finding a game system that doesn't have lvl reqs for eq

Ok. I'd like to take the time to reassure you that everyone goes through this at some point or another. No one likes to lose their equipment to the level thieves, but you should also realize that it is a necessary, if frustrating, part of the game.

What the game is actually doing is checking you on logout. The game measures your level as opposed to the level of the item and runs an equation to see if you keep said item. The closer the difference, until you are equal to or greater in level, the less chance the item will disappear.

Obviously, if you have a grand master item at level one, you will almost certainly lose it on your first log out, but nothing is ever 100% certain until you attain the items level.

Durlik wants to make a game that doesn't defy logic. Yes, this is a fantasy MUD, and some will debate whether or not certain rules and aspects are logical, but what he doesn't like seeing is "you can't do that."

In SK, you can wear anything you like. A level one character can be decked out in the best equipment in the game. This is a good and beautiful thing. Casters can also wear heavy armor, for a price.

The problem with the system is that it is abusable, and, so I believe, was abused quite a bit before this level thief system was implemented. People would use low level characters to hoard all of the good items in the game. This type of action is against the rules in many ways, but this hoarding kept items safe either for personal use or against the item being used by an enemy.

It's all fun for the person hoarding everything, but it severely limits the play of others. Thus, we have the level thieves. Just imagine if all of the stuff you had was never seen in the game again because some jerk decided that no one but him was going to touch it. They don't completely stop hoarding, by any means, but they do limit it to some degree, where as it would be limitless without the level thieves.

I hope this makes you feel somewhat better and that you continue to play the game. No one is trying to lord over you with some elite skill, and, despite how the hard core nature of the player base may make you feel at times, we generally like having new players around.

So, take it easy, look around for some new stuffs, and stick around to see some of the less frustrating parts of the game.

Welcome to SK,

-Randy

You lost your equipment because it was too high level for you to keep. No other player has stolen them, you're just not strong enough to keep them. Try advancing a few levels next time you log in, and look for cheaply bought armor.

Whatever you do, don't try to ask other people to give you equipment, as more than likely it will be too high level for you and will end up stolen by "logout thieves" when you quit and return later.