Dance and Dex

ObjectivistActivist · **Posted:** Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:17 am

Haste only makes up for part of the lack for humans. The int is still too low.

Dulrik · **Posted:** Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:32 pm

Baldric wrote:

To get an idea of how devastating songs of sleep are, go to the shattered kingdoms logs site (a google search of "shattered kingdoms logs" will get you there). Do a search for "Marietta" and look at the first log, titled "Darkies dominate lighties in Sith." It is a 6v5 pvp. The lightie bard gets neutralized early by frenzy, but the darkie bard is able to sing songs of sleep. It is a complete massacre. The only damage team darkie takes in the fight is from the backlash of spirit aura.

I'm not going to claim that songs of sleep is no longer good. But it should be noted that the log mentioned above has a date of February 2012. In Decemember 2012, several bard songs were completely revamped, including songs of sleep. Songs of sleep is probably no longer as effective as shown there.

jreid_1985 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:41 pm

The progression to penalize weapon speed must be pretty fast.
I just recently read a log where it cut down someone's attacks to half by the time he actually got around to attacking, which was in about 3 rounds time.

Dulrik · **Posted:** Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:22 pm

Since it's quite possible to die in less than three rounds, that's certainly slower than instantly dropping to half your attacks as soon as the bard opens their mouth. And I'm not confirming that it is three rounds either. The speed that the song takes affect depends a lot on the bard.

jreid_1985 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:02 am

It certainly has me thinking of rolling a bard alt.

archaicsmurf · **Posted:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:32 am

I'd rather have a bard than a priest on my team in PVP.

jreid_1985 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:10 pm

So how does CHA come into play with bards?

Galactus · **Joined:** Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:21 pm **Posts:** 906

jreid_1985 wrote:

So how does CHA come into play with bards?

Persuade, f minor, b aug, maybe now songs of antimagic... basically anything else that requires a save. Which isn't much.

IIISheets · **Posted:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:16 pm

Rolled two bards, didnt like the stats of the first. Both had similar DEX. Seemed that the roll with significantly higher CHA had less fail at dancing. While this isn't an exhaustive test, is there any merit to this?

Dulrik · **Posted:** Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:40 pm

Charisma impacts pretty much every ability unique to bards (except tumble).

Edit: Actually power chords don't really use charisma all that much.

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