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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:03 pm 
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Sorry, but I feel dumber for having read that post.

Anyways... How easy/difficult a priest will be with rezzes should depend on two things.
A. The priest in question.
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B. The faith they're in.

Period. That's it. Each priest should determine their own resurrection criteria, using the faith they are in as a guideline. If you want to be stringent in your resurrection requirements? Fine. You want to resurrect everyone who comes your way? Cool. You want to never learn the spell, and never have to resurrect anyone? Go for it, though don't expect to be very popular.

Edit: And as for the topic... Name in first tell goooooood. No priest is going to walk around to spirit sight up 24/7. And if you're feeling REALLY elite, type 'manifest' before you send the tell. That's a mark of *true* skill, right there.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:28 pm 
If you want people to give you your name on the first tell and they dont.. Then dont ress them... I am sure like in all things you can make up some RP reason as to why not to offer them a ress...

Your a priest it is not your job to ress anyone who asks for it....

Sounds kinda QQ that they not only want a ress but want you to keep spirit sight up so they dont have to do something as easy as give thiere name in a tell.... Shows that resses are seen a right not a gift....


And agrenam... I intend on Trying to get priest to not ress so easily... Both IC and OOC... not that I think I will actually do it, but perhaps I can convince a priest or two just for you :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:30 pm 
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Good luck with that Mezcao.


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Mezcao - feel free not to res people when they ask. Just don't complain in the forums if someone kills you for not resurrecting them or their friends. That's the life of a priest.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:17 pm 
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I think this is getting confusing for newbies. Let's be clear about what goes on here.

Priests have NO obligation to resurrect people who ask. Most are willing enough to do it for non-enemies (or they wouldn't play priests), but you should be thinking of roleplay reasons why the priest might do you this favor. Politeness and staying in-character helps. So does a one sentence suggestion why the priest's god might want you alive - AFTER you identify yourself.

Regardless of opinions stated here, priests aren't going to keep spirit sight up all the time. Benzo already pointed out how important it is to give your name. Priests often have multiple tell-conversations going on at once. It's a class in very high demand. (P. S. If you want roleplay coming at you constantly, play a priest yourself!)

Resurrecting people often takes longer than merely casting the spell. For some priests, the roleplay involved can take 15 minutes or more. (Again, if priest players didn't enjoy resurrections, they probably wouldn't play priests.) Also, priests can't always abandon their duties to cast a very costly spell. If you're asked to wait, and you'd rather ask someone else, that's fine! Just tell the priest so he doesn't waste energy trying to restore you.

If you're a newbie, don't take Gilgon's comments about killing priests who don't provide instant service seriously. Priests do talk to each other, and they can call in a lot of favors. Making enemies of the priests that might assist you is not wise. I doubt Gilgon's character's actions back up all this talk.


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I have had times where as many as ten players have asked for resurrections within a matter of minutes. That is -without- counting the continuous requests for gates, enchantments and general aid.

This "heaven forbid you can just have spirit sight up at all times" is bordering on offensive. Not all races have concentration capacity in abundance. With two sanctuaries held, I could only cast heal if I let go of all light-concentration spells, including spirit sight. Heaven forbid I prioritized the life of those in my group :evil: .

Priests are a source of never-ending encounters with other characters, yes. They are also the source of massive headaches, and unless you play a factioned priest, which will decrease the requests you get significantly (ie. only giving life to one side in a conflict), you risk ending up feeling it more like a job than enjoyment.

That said, some churches are worth it. I personally much prefer religious roleplay/groups to cabals.

To newbies: Giving your name prevents your tell from disappearing in the noise of other people requesting this or that. If you get no reply within a few minutes, ask again - it may have disappeared in fighting spam. Roleplay the interaction well and you will own the hearts of at least some priests - and likely have an easier time getting a rez next time you need one.


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Something I've always wanted to do: Priests can't resurrect people who are of opposed alignment to their god or that follow a god who is of an opposed alignment to their god. Why? Because your god knows the heart of a soul in the river and denies use of resurrection to those who would are opposed to him. Never done that because it used to be too hard to get a resurrection. These days though it sounds too easy, so perhaps the time has come.


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Dulrik wrote:
Something I've always wanted to do: Priests can't resurrect people who are of opposed alignment to their god or that follow a god who is of an opposed alignment to their god. Why? Because your god knows the heart of a soul in the river and denies use of resurrection to those who would are opposed to him. Never done that because it used to be too hard to get a resurrection. These days though it sounds too easy, so perhaps the time has come.


I like the idea, but I'd rather it stop a priest and ask for confirmation to keep casting if you tried to do it on any of the banned chars listed above. that's just so that the priest can do it if some rare incident happens- say, a morning PK run that accidentaly killed a newbie with no other priests online.


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I'm not entirely sure that is a good idea. It would increase the already rather hefty pressure on grey-aura priests (unless they're meant to be limited to grey only too, which wouldnt make much sense RPwise), and cause more to delete because of it than already do.

I personally know at least three grey-aura priests who gave up their characters because it "stopped being fun and started being a job". I wasn't one, but could well have been had I stayed longer. The requests were virtually neverending, especially from darkies who have had a severe shortage of priests for quite a while.


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Darkies always seem to have a shortage of priests. That help file is far too true.


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